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Deleting drawings by LunaMoon

I've deleted some drawings and other art from my gallery (Including characters).
I was actually thinking on removing everything but I left some drawing that I liked a bit. I think I already talked about this before, so sorry, that's the last time

The overall reason is that me, myself don't like my own art style, I don't know if this is a common thing, I'm assuming everyone passes through this... like, it's not about ''don't liking a drawing that came out ugly'', it's literally about disliking the entire art style... I'm always underestimating myself, not only on drawings and I'm a bit perfectionist too and it doesn't help. Seeing other's drawings, even from people that started drawing not too long ago, I feel their art is way better than mine 'cause I can see potential in them, but I feel mine always derail.

Every time I post a drawing or music, I ask to myself ''will anyone even like that?'', that's the general feeling I have about my art... This is just a vent post I guess. Even though some people say they like my art, I feel they're lying. At this point I don't mind the answer if anyone says it's bad while being truly sincere. I don't want to loose hope on my art skills, because I know that I at least improved comparing to the past but this feeling is devastating as an artist, specially when I've been drawing for about eight years now, which I don't think is a lot in questions of drawing but it still almost a decade worth of it.

Like, some would say to take a break from drawing 'cause this might be a burnout, and I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm just blind or something... anyways, hope you having a good night/day
Eehh I don't like posting vent but okay, I'll delete this after a month or two to keep my profile in positive energy.

Deleting drawings

LunaMoon

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    hii uhh.. sorry if this is long, but I wanna offer some advice, so I'd really appreciate if you could check it out <:3

    so I'm not sure if you've heard of this advice before but alot of artists including myself suggest it and alot of us follow it, and trust me it helps! the advice we all give is to never compare yourself to other artists okay <:3 it's okay to inspire from them, and it's okay to find parts of artstyles you like and see if you can get inspired for your own artstyle, but the best thing to do is to never compare yourself to anyone, except the only person you should compare yourself to is your past self. alot of artists including myself compare ourselves to our past selves and past art because we notice how much we've improved over the years, or maybe we find a style of ours that we miss and decide to bring it back. anyway, when you compare your new art to your past art, you'll notice how much improvement you've gotten over the years ^-^ for me, some of that was my lineart and anatomy, I've noticed that my lines have gotten smoother and thinner, and the anatomy has gotten more accurate. I also try to make paws different from canines and felines, as irl animal paws don't all look the same UwU

    also uh.. please don't think we're "lying" to you when we say we compliment you :< I'm a very honest person, like very very, almost to the point it's extremely rare for me to lie now. I learnt not to lie the hard way through all the abuse I went through, so I wouldn't lie about my interests like that, and to be honest I think your art is really good, you definitely know alot more about shading, lighting, and backgrounds than I do ^-^ but maybe we could learn from each other if you wanted! if there's anything you may need help with, maybe I could see if I can help in some way :3 I notice alot of artists struggle with same face syndrome and making some types of species easier to tell apart, I actually wonder myself if my chibi style will be easy to tell what species the characters are :o my main style I don't have to worry about I don't think, I think I've gotten better at drawing wolves over the years :3 I never use to be good at drawing them you see. but if you're like me and feel you need more practice on something you're not so good at, just remember that practice is key and references can really help ^-^ and just remember your fellow artists are here to help too, but try not to compare yourself to others besides your past self okay <=)


    just remember that everyone starts somewhere, heck even my art when I first started wasn't all that good XD but I still kept going because it was a hobby I really liked :3 I guess when you're a kid, you like to have fun making things and you don't really care if it looks bad or anything, that's the kind of attitude we should all have :3 though I think I was 2 XD but hey don't let that put you off, you're never too late and never too old to be an artist, and don't worry if you take years to be good like trust me, it took me years too so don't worry you're fine! it's quite common for artists to take about more or less than several years to get better at art, and I can be a bit of a perfectionist too with my own art aswell so don't worry you're not alone <=D heck you may of seen me in streams where I keep undoing each line I draw and joke that I'm a finicky fennec XDD even I can be picky with my own lineart too so I can understand if you are cos alot of us are the same way <:3

    the best thing to do is have patience in yourself and remember, art is suppose to be a fun hobby so make sure you enjoy yourself and take plenty breaks okay :3 and if you're like me and you want to get your art out there to be noticed and popular, then make sure you're drawing things you like instead of worrying too much about what other people like, you don't wanna be too much of a people pleaser cos drawing things you're not interested in can make you lose interest in art altogether and you don't want that, you wanna enjoy yourself and that's important <:3 if you draw what you like, you might come across people who like the same things as you ^-^ and just remember if you're not super popular yet and don't have enough follows and faves, don't worry! its doesn't mean you're "not good enough", it just means you're underrated and not quite noticed yet, and trust me there's alot of other underrated artists like us who are still tryna get noticed, it's just tryna get there can be really hard so that's why we small artists have to pitch in and support each other


    if you're looking to be noticed on weasyl, luckily I have found a good way that helped me a little :3 weasyl is one of those places where you've gotta go up and interact with others if you want interactions, so the best thing to do is to get to know the community and make some friends here ^w^ luckily weasyl's community is mostly nice, unlike deviantart and toyhouse which have proven to be quite toxic.. D: but yeah each site has its own way where you can get noticed. pillowfort has sharing posts to communities, instagram has its hashtags, and weasyl has its interactions :3 well pretty much these methods can help in alotta sites, just each site has features that help more than other features, so don't be afraid to explore those and try out new ways :D unfortunately when people get noticed and popular, everyone such as myself is gonna get haters at some point.. but hey don't listen to them, they're below you for a reason so don't let em bring you down oki. they're just jealous because you've got what they've not UwU so uh that's something you gotta be prepared for if you ever do wanna be popular ^-^; unfortunately I never saw it coming years ago, but now i'm prepared! >:3

    but popularity isn't for everyone so if it isn't for you, that's okay too :3 some people like the quietness of being a small artist, while others wish they had fans who are excited on what you do. for me, being loved makes me really happy, cos not only I enjoy what I create, but it also makes me really happy that some of my creations have made people's days and have brightened up people's moods :3 and ocs are a special interest of mine so knowing that some people really like my characters also brings me joy too! so seeing fans happy makes me happy too 💛 but make sure you still draw for you ofcourse :3 you wanna still be creating things that you love, cos not only it makes art more enjoyable but you can also make friends with those who like similar things as you ^w^

    I'm really sorry if I came off direct, I was just wanting to help oki ^-^; but I hope this helps and I'm sorry if it came out rude, I don't really mean to be ^w^; stay safe out there!

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      WOW that is very long, but I've read it all. Sorry for saying that, it's a paranoia I guess... I still like when people comment on my posts. Thanks for your words though, that was very sweet... I still hope these feelings are just a phase and I'll be able to get past this. I usually don't care about my older art but I feel I didn't had much improvement in this year so I felt like that. I'm not really interested in being too popular, I tried gaining some other time, drawing pokemon and it was working but pokemon it's not really something I want to draw so I stopped... being at least recognizable would be nice.

      And Weasyl is my favorite place to post my stuff, it's cozy :3 I left DeviantArt 'cause they allowed AI within the website, I'm not against AI but I think it should be separated from actual art and in different places. I never had a problem with toxicity there as far as I remember but it was a more frenetic place compared to Weasyl for sure, with DA having bots, scams and weird people in the mail box. I tried using Twitter but you need to be VERY active and interactive to actually be noticed by someone, so it's harder there, at least for me because I'm usually shy but eventually I try :P

      Some of your drawings really enlightened up my mood, they are very cute, as well your ocs too. SO thank you again for your nice words!!

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        no problemo ^-^ and it's okay, we all have our ups and downs but it's also important to learn from them too you see <:3 yeahh I'm hoping it'll be just one of those phases too, it might be a good idea to take breaks and try to think about what's good about your art and what you like about it :3 there could be chance you could be experiencing a burnout of some kind, perhaps an art block? I hear you can get two different types of ab, there's the more common one where an artist needs inspiration and has to keep drawing to overcome it, and there's the kind that I always have where you draw so much you lose the motivation, so I find taking breaks and enjoying other hobbies really does help, that way you'll come back and feel like drawing again ^-^

        outings are great for artblock, plus not to mention tons of fun too! :D and you might even get art ideas from the things you see that day too ^w^ one time a bee startled me by flying up to me thinking I was a flower XD well that actually happens all the time lol, I wear very bright, colourful clothing in the offline world :3 but that gave me inspiration for a funny art idea hehe X3 that's an example I thought of, but I'm sure there are many things out there that might help give you cool art ideas :D not just outings but your favourite media can be a really good source of inspiration too ^-^

        there are lots of things that could help inspire you, and lots of fun hobbies that can help distract you away from the thought of art for now if you need the motivation :3 just remember to enjoy yourself and don't be too hard on yourself okie <:3 it could just be that you may need a break from arting, and that's totally valid, everyone needs a break sometimes ^-^ art's suppose to be a fun and enjoyable hobby after all, so you wanna make sure you enjoy yourself, that being your top priority for art :3 I find drawing silly memey joke art always gives me the giggles XD you could go wild with the crazy poses and expressions lol it's great XDDD


        yeah I hear being too popular can take up alot of your time, and alot of popular people treat it like a competition when they should know it's kinda impossible to be the most popular person in the world.. ^w^; I think I too wouldn't mind a small cozy tightknit fanbase, but I totally get where you're coming from on being a huuuge artist, I think being a mediumish artist would do me UwU but yeah I agree, being recognisable, known, and remembered sounds like a really nice thing, I think I would quite like to find more people who like what I do, sorta even out how many fans I have since I feel like there's too many haters out for blood. ehh, I don't really care about the haters lol they ain't my priority UwU I focus more on the people who like me instead, like you guys :3 I appreciate you all 💛 except the haters lol

        same here, weasyl is awesome, I like it here ^w^ yeah I don't consider ai "artists" to be artists at all, I think there should be a separate site for ai "art" and keep actual art sites like this for real art and real artists instead. I sorta left deviantart to escape bullying, abuse, drama, harassment, and smear campaigns. and I'm not as active on toyhouse for the same reason. I am currently trying characterhub tho, it definitely looks promising :3 I think I would consider myself a deviantart/toyhouse refugee after what happened, bullies want rid of me all because I stood up to them one time. these losers really need to get a life lol, I'm already busy with mine UwU /nay

        Twitter's alright, though I don't like how the new owner is destroying their own site.. I have tried alternatives like the mastodon sites, tumblr, and pillowfort, so luckily postybirb helps me post to these in no time UwU I'm a pretty busy person but postybirb can be really handy if you don't have the time to be on too many sites :3 also seeing how my creations makes those including yourself really happy makes me happy too, because I not only like to make things and like what I make, but knowing that I've managed to make peoples days makes me feel extra blissful because I'm glad I managed to spread joy to everyone around me, the kindness makes me feel good because I like making people happy, and I wanna be that one person who brings people into the light when they once saw darkness 💛 I'm glad I've been a help and I'm glad I've managed to help you too in some sorta way, and I also wanna say thank you too for your kindness aswell (◕ω◕✿)

        Really sorry this was long again! I've been spacing it all out so that hopefully it's easier for you, I try to do this to everyone since life's already hard, why not make it easier right? <:3 I tend to be quite talkative in general, hope that's alright! /fr

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    I think even if you don't want the public to view it anymore--you'll still always have that art you made in your heart (and maybe on a saved file somewhere. It's understandable when you want to change things around and try something new--you don't want the old stuff cluttering your head and your online space while you're trying to find your new place, artistically speaking. :)

    I'm more of the kind of person where, I love to see art--especially when the artist's love is in their art. So, if it means you take a hiatus and try new things--then do all that you want, because you want whatever you produce to have your heart in it. I can definitely tell how much you put into your music--you have uploaded different and improved versions of specific things from all I've viewed since following you. This tells me just how important music is to you, as an artist.

    The online place is a hard place to be from an artist. I talk about this a lot with friends--with the changes and directions when you're online in a gallery or a social site. Many people want the instant gratification--and that's why there's a lot of gravitation to adult (sexual) art..........it's a primitive visual that anyone can understand the meaning of. When the art isn't in the adult category--you get more hits or misses in favorites and comments, because people don't have that "instant gratification" of a visual. Maybe they have to think, maybe they have to empathize (and aren't sure how).........so some simply do nothing. And when the community does nothing to interact with an artist--it can make the artist question their skills and their desires to make art. Sometimes it just may need you taking a hiatus from being online, uploading and participating.........if you focus on yourself, you might discover more about you as an artist--what you want to do and what you want to be.

    Take all the time you need to discover the direction you want to go in--the people who really care about you and your art will likely still be here when you are ready to come back. :)

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      Yes, you're right, I might've felt bad about some of my drawings but I don't want it to get lost 'cause it still part of my history after all and I would be worse if I lost them all... Although all of that, I'm someone who is very clingy with characters and art, I never though on making adopts or OC trades because every character I make feels like part of me already. But anywaysssss

      About what you said with instant gratification, I'm not sure If I got it because I'm not used to this term... But is it like, liking and interacting with something at first sight? For sure this would be easier with adult content, being more appealing, more people would like and interact with my art if it was for adults, consequently making me more popular and taking away this feeling. Let me know if I got it right.

      This is very interesting but I think the problem that gets me the most is because I keep comparing myself to other people. My first concrete art style back in 2017-2018 was basically to try to resemble another artist I liked at the time, it helped me learn to draw better but when I started drawing furries I had the need to change it. Then I wanted to create my own art style and it was like it until 2023 came, when I realized I didn't liked what I was doing, so I tried new things but I could never keep it going. Then I tried to copy other artist's style again but it came out as the same thing and I didn't knew what I was doing wrong so it always had me thinking if I really knew how to draw and questioning my art skills all the time... I admit that I might be just jealous that I don't draw like someone who actually knows what they're doing... Another thing is, I already said that but I'm perfectionist (and I hate it) and I keep looking at my drawings for a while and the more I keep looking the more I find faults and, over all, finding them weird or ugly in the end. I tried some times to ignore and pay less attention if a line is out of place or the face of the character looks weird but then I look at others drawings and I can't help but try to fix my own to look as decent as theirs... Sorry if it was a long xD

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        Sorry it took me a little while to get back to this…….I had to take my laptop to a professional place to be fixed and had only my phone over the weekend. I’m on my iPad now, but that’s a little better than my phone…..hopefully I get my laptop back soon.

        I understand what you mean. I made adopts once and only one person ever took any. My Despair Dog species is an open species if people want to create their own, but only one person ever has. But for the most part, all of my characters that I create are a part of me and I have stories for them all. The adopts I’ve received from others, I also treat very lovingly, though a couple of people have regretted and have discontinued the species they’ve created—but is still draw them and I still love them. :)

        Well, it’s hard to explain. It’s more that feeling when you look at art—so I think that what you said explains it pretty well. Adult content is pretty straightforward and make you feel certain things…….but illustrative work is up to individual feelings when they look at it, so everyone may feel an illustration differently. Even more differently than how the artist feels about what they draw.

        Comparing yourself to others…….that is always the artist’s downfall, I think. It can make you feel less on what you create and make you even hate drawing. But it’s also a feeling you can’t help having, either. I’m a little of a perfectionist, when it comes more to fanart than my own stuff…….it gets to be hard for me to do even things like Pokémon without trying to adhere to the original games’ illustrations. I’m still trying hard to break through this and draw my own way when it comes to fanart, but I think I also have a very long way to go. I do better when it comes to fandom characters (like my Transformers OCs), because I don’t feel constricted by the perfection of lines and look, since the designs are my own. I don’t think feelings like that are something any or all artists can ever get over.

        But take some time and see if you can get back into a feeling where you’re comfortable at what your art is and looks like. Maybe you can at least like it better, even if it’s not perfect. :)