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Hey! by Trysta

As much as I love this site I just haven't been around or on it. I've mostly just been using FA, because it's the place where I know how to get business. That said, my eventual goal is to weed out FA and just use here and InkBunny to post my adult furry works.

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    I know there are plenty of reasons to dislike FA, but I don't think Weasyl and Inkbunny combined could even begin to cover what you make from there. From my experience, Weasyl is basically a ghost town, with even your most popular works receiving a handful of view, and more likely than not, not a single comment. Inkbunny on the other hand, does have a pretty thriving community, but it is only because that the last haven for cub porn. As such the community is really biased towards those darker fetishes, and it may just be a coincidence, but I think the general population of Inkbunny likes to spend less on average than you could get on FA.

    Good luck to you in any case! I know I will enjoy your art no matter where it is posted :3

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      That's basically what I'm saying. Though it's more a problem of volume in commissions. I can actually get much higher paying work on InkBunny a lot of the time and most of the commissions I've gotten through there have been with people that are much easier to work with. I find that way fewer stressful interactions with people crop up on InkBunny than on FA.

      As for peoples' kinks, I could really care less, it's all fantasy and the furry fandom is already a haven for really unconventional kinks anyway. Like "darker" as a term just doesn't even make sense to me in this community, because of some of the stuff that is in it that is very abundant is pretty dark, but just it happens to not carry much of a social stigma as other things.

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        Well, I call it darker because they are not allowed on most other sites, for a very good reason. Lolicon, shotacon, and even furry cub porn is now considered child pornography and has been since the passing of the Patriot Act some odd years ago. Technically, for those living in the United States, you can be arrested and charged with some serious felonies for having that stuff on your computer. Websites that host that kind of content can also be hit as long as they are based in the US. I assume Inkbunny's servers are located elsewhere, or I would imagine they would also be cracking down on all of the cub porn.

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          The Patriot Act has absolutely nothing to do with this, and actually the US is still fairly lenient about this content matter. The problem actually comes from payment processors in the US aggressively restricting this content, but in many cases they're like that about furry in general.

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            I honestly can't remember the details all that well, but I did read an article about the matter probably a good 6 years ago. I can't remember if it was included in the Patriot Act itself, or was passed around the same time, I just remember the part where they clearly defined any adult materials depicting minors, no matter how cartoonish, as child pornography. I can't say that I have heard of people getting thrown away for cub porn yet, but recently I saw a news story about a lolicon fan that was charged with the possession of child pornography. Granted he was really dumb and posted really creepy comments on to Facebook about it which lead to the investigation.

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              That's not actually true, where the problem comes in actually has to do with the sheer volume as well as USPS postal laws on shipping said items (it's a felony to ship "obscene" materials). The guy was originally pegged because the fact that he was importing the stuff through the USPS, they did charge him with more than that, but it had to do with the sheer volume of material he had collected (he had so much that he didn't even know what he had and actual child pornography was found).

              When it comes to laws restricting freedom of speech I'm pretty up to snuff.

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    Yeah, I feel you. FA is just where everyone is. It's very difficult to try and build up a comparable userbase elsewhere. u o u"

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      Yeaaaaah. It's this odd thing of everyone is already there so no one wants to move.

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    Well. Good luck on that.

    Personally i prefer fa

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      It's the absolute worst site I've ever used, so for me the idea just boggles.

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        Nah. I dislike inkbunny more. Such a weird place. Weasyl, i have no opinion on. Too new.

        What in fa makes you dislike it?

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          With InkBunny the only thing I don't like about it is the interface, but I was able beat the stupid out of it. Weasyl I love, it's really young and it's already way more robust and feature rich than FA, runs better, less weird bugs.

          Pretty much everything, to be honest. Site has really bad administration, programming, UI, the community is one of the worst I've been involved in for a site it's size (if not the worst). It actually boggles me that the site has managed to stick around this long with how massive and severe it's problems are. Pretty much the main thing that keeps it going is just the size and activity of the community.

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            I have not had any issue with admins on fa. Respect them they will respect you.

            Maybe because i habe a different view on the world why i dont find people on fa that big of a problem.

            Since i know the site is ran with free labor. No ads no subscription.

            I have not had any issues with the ui on fa either. And its manageable on mobile devices.

            Weasyl is not as smooth on mobile. And its so new. Has yet to see all the security issues and drama llamas. Dont judge the whole fruits basket just because of a few rotten apples. Yea tjey are more visible and smelly. But one should not always concentrate on the negative. Yes i know i am telling one to work past group presaure, pride and human nature. And blown up egos

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              It's less a problem of respect and more a problem that they have no idea what they are doing and treat very serious issues very poorly and often times they can be asshats to the people that are the victims in a situation. They just plainly do not know how to run something that big and actively have avoided help that has been offered to them to fix many of the problems. It's a mess.

              It's really not about world view to me, you can have a differing worldview that allows you to cope differently, but the problems are still objectively present. It's just about the ratio of people that are actually decent to the ratio of people that are nasty and destructive. It's much much worse on FA than just about any site I've been actively. It has a very seriously problematic community and the admins and users protect a lot of these problematic things rather than calling people out on them and try to remedy the problem.

              The UI is very poorly designed and breaks many UX standards and conventions as well as not following important webstandards. It's manageable, yes, but that makes it no less broken or awful.

              Weasyl is smoother on the only mobile devices I use, so that's just a YMMV type thing.

              Weasyl actively combats security errors and works with people when they're brought up, something FA has never done, even when these failure's on FA's part are catastrophic enough that they technically break privacy and protection of information laws. There is not even and breath of comparison between how differently these things have worked between the two sites, and you don't judge programming by time anyway, you judge it by adherence computer engineering standards.

              Weasyl isn't really somewhere I'd use as a measure for the communities in general, it's too quiet here. InkBunny however has pretty much been nothing but nice and the few instances that were problematic were handled very easily. On FA we're not talking about a few bad apples, we're talking about a uniformly problematic community that actively bullies individuals and often resorts to pressure and bullying tactics to shape portions of the community in unhealthy and destructive ways, especially to the artists on the site. This can happen anywhere, the big difference is that it's not called out on by other members of the user base and it's not combated by the admins. I really wish I could say that it was just a few rotten apples, but it's rather much the reverse, it's a tiny handful of people that come out of the woodwork occasionally that are nice.

              I've been on art communities both young and old, large and small, quiet and loud, some since they first started and others much later. FA is, by far, in every possible manner that I can think of, the worst one I've experienced other than for getting business. I've been on FA since it first started, but once it went through it's reboot things drastically took a turn for the absolute worst and it's only gotten worse from there. It is an objectively bad site in every possible way on a statistical level. People can be there, they can like it, but it's definitely not good or serviceable.

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    I really wish I had the power to combine sites and make a new, super site; I would take FA's user base and then features, layout, staff,rules and everything- EVERYTHING else from all sorts of sites around the net.

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      Pretty much, yeah. That would be my ideal.

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    I love Inkbunny~ I do wish they were as bumpin' as FurAffinity. :/

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      Yeah, it's generally a nice place, but waaaay too slow most of the time, community wise.