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People Who Don't Tip by sixrabbits
People who don't tip suck.
I'm not even a waitress and it fills me with rage when I hear someone say "I don't owe you a tip!" or "Get a real job!"
On the "get a real job" comment; any job where you are paid for the work you do is IN FACT a "real job". I don't know what some people define as a real job, but that's my definition.
However, continuing the subject of "get a real job". precisely where are all these businesses hiring people at liveable wages? Are they hiring college students? Working parents who were not able to attain a college degree? Do they have flexible hours for artists who want to devote time their art as well as make a good living?
A lot of people did not put server at the top of their dream job list. For most people this is a survival job. Some are great at it, some are not, some people stay in this job for years, some only do it for a few months. People don't choose to become a server because they wanted to be treated like garbage by other people. These people are trying to earn enough money to keep the heat on in their home, and put some food on the table. If you've never been in that position, then you are really blessed, and hopefully you will never experience such a life where have are mentally calculating what it costs to turn on a lamp.
Some servers have college degrees, but the competition for any jobs leaves them with slim pickings. Instead of sitting around waiting for someone to call them back, they are taking a job to feed themselves. Others are college students, again, working to feed themselves while they make an effort to go on to better things. Some servers never had the chance to complete a college degree, or dropped out of high school for any number of reasons, and there is not a better job waiting for them. Just because they haven't achieved some level of income that you deem worthy of respect it is not your place to punish them!
"I don't owe you anything!"
No, there is no law that says you must tip. Consider, however, that these tips don't just go to the waiter, but are split between the whole staff. So your server wasn't great, does that mean you should also punish the kitchen staff?
Why do you feel you don't owe them anything? They just personally waited on you, brought you food to your specifications, made you feel welcome in the restaurant, and didn't spit your food. They are paid very little to do these things. Why do you feel you don't owe them $5?
Is it because you're cheap? If so, you shouldn't be eating out. Yeah, meals can be expensive, but they are a LUXURY! It costs less to make it yourself (if you can't cook, that's your problem ;-3). Get over it, tip your waiter/waitress. Your waitress is not your mom, she's not doing this because she loves to serve you food, this is her job.
Honestly, if you don't think you owe your server anything just stick to fast food.
And to the "get over it, it's part of the job"
Why is being yelled at, called an idiot, denied compensation part of the job? That should not be part of the job. It's not actually in the job description that you will be called a "stupid bitch" because the kitchen is taking too long, or you forgot to write down "extra dressing". There is no legitimate reason that anyone should be that awful to their server. The only reason they do that is because they get away with it, because there is no reprecussions. People who act like that are terrible people and they should be told that they are terrible (seriously, see something, say something! if not to them, say to the manager how that waiter/waitress is being bullied by a customer and still doing a good job).
Working in food service is one of the most stressful jobs out there that doesn't involve getting shot at. If you're ever out at a restaurant, remember that and show some compassion to your server.
People Who Don't Tip
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On average, wait staff is being paid less than minimum wage per hour. That gratuity charge is how the business ensures that the staff is being paid a fair wage and not leaving it up to chance. It's partially a sneaky way that the business gets out of paying their staff a good wage.
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I agree, but it's also a sneaky way to attempt to trick paying customers into paying more than they should. A good tipper gives a percentage of their bill to the person serving them. Or, they give what they can. Forcing people to pay out of pocket, especially if they only came there with a certain amount of money, is not only rude, it's asinine. What if all I wanted to do was eat, pay, tip a little, and go, but they try to force me to pay more than I brought with me? That's bad customer service.
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It happens, but this journal isn't about that. It's about people refusing to tip and demeaning anyone working in the service industry.
It's not bad customer service, you are served accordingly, you are charged what the business charges. Usually the charges for food prep are mixed with the cost of the meal, this is just a different way of splitting it up. If you don't like it, you don't have to eat there. Again, eating out is a luxury. -
I don't think it's bad customer service to be expected to fund the servers' living wages via charges surrounding the only service by which a restaurant actually makes money.
Aside from the gratuity being a hidden charge that isn't often listed on the menu - which I personally think ought to visible and become a specified, mandated amount a la certain other countries in the developed world - I think it's perfectly fine customer service to mandate a charge to cover workers' wages.
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Servers and rest of the staff, I mean, derp.
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Yeah, waiters, cashiers, kitchen workers, and service workers more than deserve my gratuity overall. Dealing with dozens to hundreds of people over the course of a day of varying degrees of irritable self-entitlement is hard shit, and somebody has to do it and deal with being $40 under rent and so on.
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I personally think everyone should have to work in retail or food service for a year to know what it's like. Just last night one of my coworkers was called a "bitch" to her face. People come in and treat us like they own us.
So much fun when you're working long hours and still can't afford your meds.
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If you feel you aren't being paid enough, why not up your prices? That is one advantage you have over being a waitress; you can charge whatever you want (accordingly to what people are willing to pay, of course... but for the most part, increasing it by at least however much you expect as a tip wouldn't change business I imagine.) And I've heard it's only common in the US to tip a waitress/waiter regardless of whether or not they did an especially outstanding job? I suppose this is a new thing to me; I only get tipped about 10% of the time, and when I commission artists, a lot of the time they send me an invoice, making it rather impossible to tip unless I send more without their confirmation, and when I do, sometimes they act very weird about it.
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I'm mostly focusing on tipping at a restaurant, not commissions. When it comes to commissions I'm not concerned about tips, because I don't live off of my art.
In a lot restaurants waitresses are paid $3.60 an hour, which a person can't live on unless tips are included in that (tips that are split between the whole staff). I work in retail, so I already deal with the random insults flung at me over things I have no control over, I don't even want to think about how horrible it gets for some wait staff if the kitchen gets backed up.
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Food service is such a terrible job that i try to always over tip.
Also, i try my best to smile at the staff when they are serving me. It's always appalling when they say how unusually nice i am... I'm just being a decent fricking human being... how come so many others fail at that?
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It really is sad that it is so surprising. I try to be nice and tip generously. I don't go out to eat much because I cannot afford meal plus a tip.
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I think most people in these conversations, usually only see one side of the argument. For every bitching food service server, is a hostess they didn't tip at end of night, or a cook that wasn't tipped, or a table buster that hauled ass for the server with no tips. End of night, the people bitching about their tips are the people that are not servers. I've lived with enough servers and was one, as well as other food industry jobs, to know that half of this is entitled hogwash. But I am from states where they get the min wage at least and tips. It's not every state, but in my two states I live in back and forth, they go home with the average 9 dollar min wage, and their 50 plus or more in tips. They whine because they wanted more, not that they didn't get enough.
I still tip, and I tip from service, but I never give less than what would be fair. I just don't have an american mindset on tipping. It makes me sound like a jerk but I am a good tipper all the same. I just roll my eyes and remember sitting with the cooks out back with our one dollar maybe at end of a hard demanding shift which often involved running food for a server on their break, making their salads and drinks, listening to servers bitch that they (already taking home at least 60 before tax as base pay) only got the equal amount in tips that night. HMMM.. >.> That's cool, you partly would not have had those tips without the rest of the team but you just walk on home with all that and not share and complain about how little you made.
I've been in retail and food service for well over 10 years (high and low end establishments). I agree it should be a job people have to do, but I don't sympathize anymore with the tips debate if they live in a state with a decent min wage + tips.
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As for the real job thing. I hate that. I always link people to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA3-InoYsWQ lol Because pretty much all my friends are professional artists or in touring bands, youtubers that bought houses in the Hollywood hills from talking about video games and baking. haha yeah, real jobs are all real because they are jobs. You have to work at everything, even the "fun" ones.
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I really feel bad for all the people in the food service industry. It doesn't always work out in the favor of the whole staff, which is pretty messed up.
Some states don't require that servers be paid minimum wage, so they end up being paid just $4/hr, but are still taxed for tips.
I know there are entitled whiners out there, but there are also people busting their ass and still being treated like shit, because sadly, people (especially Texans) feel it is okay to treat the person waiting on them like shit just because we can't do anything about it. People say "that's just part of the job"... like we're all supposed to accept being treated in a way that would be considered unacceptable in any other setting.I just hate the attitude people have of "fuck you! I'm not going to tip because I don't have to!" They are absolute assholes that don't treat staff decently in the first place.
Having worked in retail, I know for certain people are pretty terrible. I encounter all kinds, and the vast majority seem to think that I'm not a valuable human being, that I'm just a stupid waste that is in their way and doing all that I can to inconvience them- including making the exceptions to coupons, and it's totally my fault that they didn't read the whole sale sign. I've been grabbed by customers when I didn't respond quickly enough, I've been knocked down by a kid and the mother yelled at me for not watching where I was going. People just suck.
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Retail made me actually hate people. I am still ever helpful. People ask me for help in stores even out of "uniform" because I look like I can help. I have those "do you need help, I see the signs" gazelle alert mode faces and signs that don't shut off. I listen to employees talk, and I see them as coworkers just because I have been in service so long. Hell my first job I got, was because I already acted like I worked there. I have often seen a mental breakdown of a cashier while I am in line and I have asked them, do you need a break? Do you want me to find a manager and tell them for you if you are afraid for your job? I have even made a scene just to get an associate relief when I don't even work there if I see the signs of employees in distress. I can't stand how people forget we are humans, with feelings.
I remember at one point I was working 4 registers at one time at macys, with lines going back half through the dept in Christmas, logging out to lunch, putting the other registers into ringer mode (other associates number, but in my number for sales credit) and not even having lunch or my dinner or any breaks for 9 hours, to assist the lines. Having people yelling at me for having to wait 15 minutes, when I was supposed to be eating and living them high and dry to wait longer. Holding back tears, or just starting to cry and wiping my face while still helping the meanest people ever. I even had to call security on some ladies for their coupon rage.
I even am THAT employee that sticks it to the managers, looks out for all the employees and hr usually hates me (then adds me on facebook and gushes about how cool I was after I leave).
This reminded me of a really old memory of mine, I think I was like 8 or something, we were at a dennys counter, and I heard two waitresses talking "He complained about my service, well what do you expect for a buck 99? (back when the place was hella cheap/fossil feels right now)" they laughed all snarky and went back to their jobs. It wasn't till I worked at a dennys that I got it and can snark laugh in retrospect, but at the same time shame scowl at them for being catty. :P
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Working retail in Texas made me realize just how racist people around here are. I've heard the full spectrum of racial slurs, and transphobic comments directed at me (because I apparently look like a trans woman). We even have a regular customer that is a walking dictionary of every hateful word in the English language.
If it weren't for my coworkers also being a bunch of snarky folks it would be a lot harder to work there.Someone actually got pissed off because we had a long line and one of the managers on register got called back to deal with something, and a customer started yelling at me that she wanted to speak to a manager, because employees should not be walking off with a line that long. She only got more pissed when I told her that the person who left was a manager, who was dealing with an issue that required a manager. And I cringe when the phone rings, if it's not some idiot that can't look up directions for how to get to our store, it's someone who either thinks I have all the time in the world to listen to this longwinded description of their question (like actually tell me the story of how they got the product, why they got the product, then finally what's wrong with the product) or its someone that considers being on hold for 10 mins during a busy day is unacceptable. One woman kept hanging up and calling back every five minutes yelling at us "I WANT TO SPEAK TO A MANAGER! I HAVE BEEN ON HOLD FOR 15 MINUTES! THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!" and all you can do is say in the sweetest voice "they'll be with you as soon as they can. We are very backed up right now."
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I share the above sentiment of hating the "I don't have to tip you anything."
I have worked in retail and fast food and both made me despise humans. The retail job wasn't as bad as the fast food job. I wrecked my leg joints working for Arby's for only 13 months. The last six months I can't even count on my fingers where I worked open to close plus cleanup at close. This amounted to 16 hours on my feet with no breaks, scarfing down basic amounts of food when we had slow hours. Then turned around and opened again to work eight or more hours. I worked weekends, holidays, mornings and nights. I was the go to person to call when lazy children no-call-no-showed. I was a year older than them and I broke myself doing more than my job. I was shamed by managers and customers when I didn't have a bright peppy smile at the end of a 14 day straight work week and working 32+ hours in a matter of two days with less than four hours sleep by the time I got home and showered and finally got to sleep. My best friend was a waitress and now works fast food. There were nights that some stupid customers would leave her 50 cents on a decent ticket. And she worked her butt off. For a long time we lived on our wages. We survived and that's all we did. I, at minimum wage until I finally got my new job a month ago and her between servers pay and around 8.50 an hour. I get angry with belligerent customers to the point that I have lost my temper and chewed out a belligerent customer for being unnecessarily rude. I did not work there, I was a fellow customer.
I do everything in my power to make retail associates and server's jobs easier and try to tip according to how they act. At minimum I leave 5$. If I leave you nothing, it's because you did absolutely NOTHING. If the restaurant isn't busy and I have to call over another server and can see you hanging out and chatting, I won't hesitate to give the tip to the person that waited on me. If the restaurant is busy, I give leeway. My standards aren't even high. As long as my drink is filled and you aren't rude to me, I tip because I know that our waitresses make between 2-3$ an hour. Their tips are their lifeblood. However, most of the restaurants I go to, tips are individual, not shared.
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It's kind of part of going to a restaurant. Particularly if you plan to go there more than once, because they will remember an asshole.
Don't you just love all the false promises they give employees too? Breaks, lunches, not stacking you back to back on closing and opening. That last one they do all the time where I work. I don't get home until 11 or midnight, then they want me up there to open.. I usually have 3 hours to sleep and god so customers give you crap if you dare to show that you are tired.
I am always grateful to customers who chew out rude people. I give them extra discounts.Yeah, that's pretty much my standard too. The one time I didn't tip is because I ordered a mango shake and she brought over a strawberry one, and was so flippant about bringing me the wrong drink "can't you just deal with?", and told her "ma'am, I'm allergic to strawberries, this would kill me" and her comment wasn't to apologize but to call me a drama queen.
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What made it all worse is my managers would say I was never good for anything. I was a "subpar" employee to them. Everyday I got to hear (when they thought I wasn't listening) them talk behind my back about how I was always complaining. I was their do it all person. I complained because I hurt, I complained because I was tired, and I complained because my coworkers were lazy. The only time I was offered breaks was in the early morning when I had been there 2, maybe 3 hours out of a 9 hour day. I didn't want my break then. It did me no good. And I always told them, Can I take it later? Around 2 when we slow down again? They would never even ask me again but the lazy kids that stood around with their heads up their butts while I ran around doing their job for them (also not uncommon) would all go on break.
Oh yeaaah absolutely love them. Thankfully my last two jobs were better, one I was a print shop/shipping store's graphic designer (would have stayed if I didn't make 7.25 an hour) and now I work in linens for a party rental company. The print shop we just ate whenever were allowed snacks, I sat down most days. The downfall was the customers. Now I have no customers, an allotted 30 minute lunch and my job allows me to kinda take a breather whenever because I have to wait for washer and dryer to finish. Downfall is my neurotic boss, the drive and standing on concrete all day.
I totally get that.My dad is allergic to onions and pickles. They will tear up his stomach bad. Like bloody stool kind of bad. He asks all the time, does this have pickles or onions? Can I get it without? And he will send it back if it has onions. I wouldn't tip that waitress either if she was flippant enough to not recognize that allergies are a bad thing to deal with and that theycan really mess someone up.
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careless enough not to recognize* Lol I just woke up
Also, on the note of dad being allergic to onions and pickles, I've watched him throw up blood because something was laced with pickles and onions. So I believe him when he tells waitresses that they can kill him.
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Managers like that make even the easiest job unbearable. I quite a job I really liked because the one manager was so horrible, I was often crying in the bathroom because nothing I did was good enough for her. Coworker would take my transfer cart, she'd yell at me for not having a transfer cart. I'd go to replace my transfer cart, she'd yell at me for leaving my station. I'm grateful that my current managers are a little more understanding.
Ugh, yeah, lazy coworkers somehow always get all the breaks, and they really ruin it for everyone else. I don't see why they don't get in trouble more often for not picking up their own slack.Oh yeah, I've heard all kinds of fun stories from print shops. Did you have people that didn't understand that raster images have a severe limitations when it comes to resizing?
I'm pretty sure if you can get a doctor to say that you have joint damage they will be required to provide you with a pad to stand on.Ugh, that's horrible. My throat swells, hearing what happens to your dad I'm kind of grateful that I've never experienced that.
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I quit because of those managers. My GM yelled at me because I was cleaning trays, when we had a person being trained so lobby was clean, back line was clean, drive thru was taken care of. I had nothing else to do. I made one of my coworkers cry because I chewed her out for being lazy and then wanting to go home after "working" for two hours. I had been there for 12 hours, she was a night crew and wanted to go home because she was going to miss this huge party. I heard her talking about it with her friends that came in then watched her play sick and try to suck up to the managers. They almost let her go home too. Until I chewed her out, got her crying and said that if she left I was NOT going to cover her shift to the managers.
Oh yeah, I dealt with that on a daily basis. xD
And I would go to a doctor but for the money. We have mats we stand on, my joints are just bad so even standing all day on carpet hurts. I just stretch and keep going. Take a mixture of osteo biflex and glucosamine everyday and keep going.
It was terrifying for me. I was about 12 and was watching my big old 6'8, 300+ lbs seemingly indestructible dad throwing up blood. Not fun at all.
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Thank God I'm not the only one who feels that way! I worked at Macy's for a short time and that was good enough for me! And I hate the "get a real job" comment, nothing makes me want to physically hurt a person more when I hear that comment! Like seriously, what does qualify as a real job? I'd like to know! And I'd like to know how to get it! Jackasses
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I guess for them any job where you have to do physical labor is not a real job. Then we're slaves.
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pish, makes sense to me!
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We're all just replaceable peons.
No matter the job, if you're doing something and getting paid for it, it's a real job. I think some people just have this attitude of "let's punish the poor for being poor"/"You should have thought of that before you became peasants!"
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My only problem with tipping, is when it's forced upon me. A gratuity charge. I should be allowed to choose how much of a tip I give someone. I always tip. If I order a $15.00 pizza/coke I tip them $20. I always make huge tips. However, it's when I find a tip on my bill, that I'm rather upset with them, for telling me what I should pay for being grateful for. "Oh, you had a $5.00 meal? Here, pay our waitress $15 for being so gracious a person." Yeah, that's wrong, in my book.