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Food for thought.... by keirajo

How does it make you feel when you see a really good artist gripe about how "terrible" and "awful" their art is?


I don't want to pose this question to people on Fur Affinity, because sometimes people want to gripe without rational reasoning...but people on Weasyl seem to be a nicer and more thoughtful group.

I understand that an artist is their own worst critic...but to take it into a public forum such as one of these art sites, spend a journal or two complaining about the sucky-ness of their art--even when 30+ people are telling them their art is great and how much they love it. This kind of bothers me when I see good artists take this forum to complain about how much they hate their art and how depressed they feel because their art is so bad. How they should stop drawing because their art is awful and "everybody hates it"...?

And it makes me sad, as well...because what does that mean for MY art? I'm struggling so hard to do good and get better. If someone who has wonderful digital linework spends a journal complaining about how AWFUL their digital art is...and I can't even do straight linework in the digital format--hearing things like this just makes me curl up in a corner and cry. If a great artist hates their wonderful artwork...how are you supposed to feel when you struggle to make your art even decent enough to love?

I don't know...................I've just seen a number of journals and people complaining about this lately and it makes me feel even worse when I read these things. I'm starting to fall into an art-block because I'm feeling uncomfortable with my art by seeing these things everywhere...........

Food for thought....

keirajo

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    It's better to focus on your own progress. People who make these sorts of complaints usually aren't focused on their own artistic growth. If they feel they should stop drawing due to people "hating it" then they aren't drawing for the right reasons. Art is a deeply personal thing. It's not something you should ever let anyone tell you of its worth, because only you can decide that. People like this just need to pull their heads out of the Internet hole, put their heads down, and get themselves in a good place for self-expression. That's why I've stepped back a good bit in the fandom. I felt as if I strayed from my original inspirations, but I'm glad I did this because I've never felt so connected to my inner artistic self in years.

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      I see things go in cycles over on FA...okay maybe "furries=drama", but I think sometimes these things go too far. The last two weeks have been "my art sucks, I hate my life" journals from artists who are professional-level-kind of artists. Be happy you have 1000 watchers! Be happy 30 people +favorited and say the drawing you did is cute/beautiful/amazing! Don't say that your art sucks...when clearly it doesn't, since so many people like it. cries

      There are people out there who struggle...like me...digital is not my format, but I'm really trying. I may not get better than "sketch level", but if my sketches are good, then that's what I'll go with and improve there. Traditionally...my inking and linework are what I love best. I'm happy people +favorite any of my art, because I'm glad that someone besides me liked it. I may show unhappiness with particular things on a piece I draw..."I could have done this hand better...I like how the eyes look, but not the mouth"--these are critique level things. But to hate your whole drawing level because you're depressed and to air it in a public forum such as FA journals...I guess this is why so many people STOP reading journals over at FA. wry chuckle

      Being on Weasyl has been more helpful for my artistic sense than FA has been lately. I enjoyed my first year there...but after "haters had to hate" on my art, I no longer felt enthusiastic about sharing it with people there. I'd go through worrying about my art, but I never stopped drawing it, I only stopped sharing it with the FA group. I still don't feel comfortable sharing everything with people there yet...so I'm only posting my "better" pieces with FA or the things I draw for people over there. grin

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        I think you're making excellent progress! I like your digital as well as your traditional work. FA used to be a lot of fun for me, now it's kind of drab and sluggish. Most of the people I used to talked to abandoned their accounts or their work altogether due to personal issues with other FAers. I'm not really concerned about my audience's opinion lately though. I just do what I want and post freely. I have to admit though, weasyl is definitely one of the best furry hang-outs on the Web.

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          I really like sketching things digitally...more than I like sketching traditionally!

          Right now I'm doing a Wabi poster on comic board...I've been working on it for a few days now after work...I really like how it's turning out!

          There are nice people here at Weasyl...I'm watching artists that I don't watch on FA and many appreciate the fact that I take time to look at and comment on their work. Probably since Weasyl is so quiet. Artists I watch on both sites tend to reply to me more on this one, as well. chuckle

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    I have trouble ever completely liking my art, (I guess I'm just really critical of it) but I try not to be very public about it.
    Sometimes when I see someone (especially those of the edge of being popular) say they hate their art it almost seems like they are doing so for attention. :/

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      That's kind of what I feel like they're doing too, sometimes. I know there are people who have even said to me when I liked their drawing that they really hate their art...and it just makes me sad when many are people who take on commission work.

      I think it's okay to be critical of yourself...because you recognize your potential to improve. But to claim you hate it and hate drawing...it makes me feel like you don't want to try, either. You know what I mean?

      I've just seen too many journals like this on FA lately and it makes me a bit sad about art when so many seem to be unhappy about art........

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        I don't like it when they say they hate drawing, it's like get a different job if you hate it so much.

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          Yeah! frowns

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    How does it make you feel when you see a really good artist gripe about how "terrible" and "awful" their art is?

    It makes me want to punch them in the face. >:I

    I like my art (most of the time lol), but when I see artists my age or younger who are on a professional level, or close to it, complain about their art looking "bad", it makes me want to quit art altogether. Ugh.

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      There are many times I feel the same way. It just feels worse when you see dozens of comments telling them how wonderful their art is and they have hundreds of watchers--those people are likely watching them because they like the artist's art!

      Maybe it's like TealMoon says and that most of them are doing it for attention...which, I think, is also rather rude and selfish. sigh

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        That's probably the worst part in all of this :c

        There are times where I think some of my artwork is bad or haven't approved, but I usually keep quiet about it--This isn't something I would want attention for lol

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          The human mind boggles me! lol

          I go through unhappy stages with my own art, but usually I accept I know I could do better or that I will do better next time. I don't flog myself when I'm unhappy with my art or gripe to the public stage or others about it. sigh

          You can probably see why I posted this journal here and not on FA! lol