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When did it become okay? by Thaily

Sorry about the rant, I'm just checking in to see if I'm crazy or not.
I mean.. In this aspect, I know I'm crazy in a sort of general way, but, when I was a kid we just had land lines. You know, no mobile phones, just phones in homes. That meant that when you called someone, you were a guest of sorts in that person's home and that came with some etiquette; you didn't call too early, too late or during dinner.

One of the rules of that etiquette was that if person A gave you their number (and this a sort of invitation for you to call to their home) that you didn't give it to person B without making sure it was okay with person A first. Kind of like not bringing unannounced friends if you dropped by there place.

I've noticed people are getting way easier about just handing out people's cell phone numbers to just anyone, without letting the owner of that number know first, much less getting their permission to pass it on. Which is confusing to me, because cell phones have enabled us to invade pretty much every aspect of someone's life. If you call someone they could be pretty much anywhere, doing pretty much anything.

Forget about calling someone during dinner, they could be on the crapper or sleeping. And people are quick to say "Well they should leave it elsewhere/turn it off." but what if they have a sick relative for whom they could get a call at any time? And really, back when we just had land lines we wouldn't leave the horn off, we'd expect people to not be rude and call during dinner.

And it's one thing if a friend calls you at an inopportune moment, but a stranger?

An expo tried to include my number on an info sheet of my art, alongside the size/title/material and such and I was like "Whut O_o"

Why on earth would an art expo visitor need to call me on my cellphone?! What could possibly warrant that kind of availability to just anyone? What kind of weird calls could I have gotten? When I'm at an opening which includes my work people already get to ask me all sorts of questions, most of which are "how did you make this" followed by confused disappointment that me explaining the media and process doesn't automagically enable them to do what I do, or perhaps a realization that I did indeed make the piece and it didn't fall from the heavens.

I mean, my e-mail address is already on the info card, if people have questions or want to buy the work. Why include my number as well?! It's an art expo, not a dating service!

I'm so confused as to why they thought this was a good idea, to make my phone number publicly available.
Especially since they also provide gallery services; a gallery usually guards their artists' contact information jealously. If anything because buying directly from the artist is about 30 to 60% cheaper when the artist doesn't have to pay the gallery's commission.

But more importantly, why would it be okay to give whoever the means to invade my personal life via my phone like that? I mean, I don't expect them to know I have anxiety issues when I get calls from unknown numbers (long story, don't care if you think it's silly, anxiety is not a logical thing or subject to peer pressure) but I would have told them had they asked me if they could publish my phone number like that. I just found out by coincidence what their intentions were and was able to stop them.

Thank goodness for that.

When did it become okay?

Thaily

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    Wow ... yeah, that is strange. :/ This is part of the reason I'm big on texting. Less stress.

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    That's really weird. Maybe they assumed that your cell phone was also considered a business line? Much like how a shop or a home business would. Have it's own number and line. Personally, I don't even give out my email to clients and have a separate gmail account for them.

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      I just graduated though, plus artists don't even have to register as a business here. It sort of a leap for them to assume it's a business line.

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        Oh I agree, they totally should have asked you before just putting it out there! I keep my phone set on DnD all the time since I work graveyards and people will send unsolicited calls or texts when I am sleeping. It's set so my parents, husband and work can get through...now I just need my mom to stop calling me at my equivilant of 4am.

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        I think that's it though.

        Professionals of various stripe (and I'd argue that this would include artists going to galleries and expos) are generally expected to have two lines, a personal and a professional line. It's pretty much assumed that the shared number in professional contexts would be the professional line, and freely sharable. My friends who are lawyers have the same thing cropping up, and IIRC, doctors do as well. I know that, when running my own business, my cell # was freely offered and shared because I was the business owner and that was my business line.

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          Thing is, comparing a doctor or a lawyer to an artist is comparing apples and oranges. They're two entirely different things. Artists are artists full-time, we don't really have down time, ergo it doesn't make sense to get 2 separate phone lines. And in the industry, it is widely understood and accepted that artists don't have a business line.

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            Doctors and lawyers are also doctors and lawyers full time... that's what being a professional is. You're a professional when you never get to 'leave the job' because it involves certain mandatory kinds of behavior even away from the office (mandatory stop-and-help from doctors, lawyers who have to be careful what they say at all times, artists who just don't stop arting, etc).

            At any rate, I know what it's like in other professions, but don't know anyone doing art full time and going to galleries and such. Perhaps a business line could be beneficial to it? A cheap skype number and voice mailbox could create a door for opportunities while keeping annoying folks who aren't gonna be business from harassing you at odd hours.

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              Uh no, a doctor or lawyer knocks off at a certain time, even if they work long hours. And everyone has a stop-and-help obligation, like the guy who got sued for not saving someone who was drowning, even though he couldn't swim.

              Honestly, I am not nearly at the point of needing a separate line, which is not an industry standard, is it really so hard for people not to share a phone number? I do have a public e-mail address. Do I really need to spend extra money which I don't have and stress over people who just can't adhere to basic manners?! Do I really want to work with people who can't show me basic respect?

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                Listen, it is just a thought. So what if it's not standard? Perhaps by going a bit further you could make more contacts and money.

                As for your other questions:

                • Is it really so hard for people not to share a phone number? -- Phone remains the primary communication system, especially when money is gonna be involved. For many, sharing a phone number is nothing. It's a way of saying "There is a person over there you should talk to sometime." I'll point out that in this case you asked them not to and they didn't do it. So clearly, when informed, people are quite able to not share info.
                • Do I really need to spend extra money which I don't have? -- Often you will, that's life.
                • And stress over people who just can't adhere to basic manners?! -- Frankly, your idea of manners in this situation is unusual, not basic. I'm sorry it stresses you. :/
                • Do I really want to work with people who can't show me basic respect? -- Sadly, the answer to that is the same as the answer to "Do I really want to work?"
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                  Except it IS basic manners, and if people aren't going to show me any respect, how are they supposed to represent me. Which is what galleries do. They have to speak highly of an artist to someone in order to sell their work. If they can't even keep my phone number to themselves, how well would they represent me. You make it out as if I'd have to accept disrespect in order to make a living, when the opposite is the case. I can't make a living working with people who won't respect me.
                  Fortunately I don't have to either.

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    The intimacy of our landline back then only lasted until people became aware of phone books (the option to opt out of phone book listings for privacy reasons was fairly unknown, too), and a common last name only lasts that long before the callers had "brute forced" themselves through all the shared names ;P

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      'cept you can choose to be unlisted.

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    Yeah, proper etiquette is just not taught these days. Sad but true.
    But we also live in an era where everyone works different hours. So "dinner time" is no longer at 6pm like it used to be. Guess that's why I prefer sending a text message vs calling.

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      Yeah I don't mind if people call during dinner time, since ours is often later than usual. I do mind if they keep talking after you tell them you're eating and offer to call them back when you're done.

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    That's weird.

    I totally understand the phone thing though. I get anxiety no matter who's calling.

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    Meh, this sounds very much like overly proactive communication with disregard to privacy concerns as it is very common nowadays. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Handle, why not add eMail and Phonecontacts there as well? I am sure the expo means good for your interest as a vending artist, but it really should be something to clear beforehand. Even eMail nowadays are passed around freely, no matter how much I insist certain ones remain private - it just seems to be the thing now. However, that doesn't excuse it. One should always ask first, before handing out or publicising personal data.

    My take on the matter is that it wouldn't have anything to do with the piece on display anyway. If the expo also provides gallery services with descreet mediation between artist and buyer I am actually quite surprised they don't do the same for the expo too? Usually, when folk are really interested in buying out of an expo, there are buyers catalogues where you can put down additional info on artist and gallery at their discretion, there is no need to have that info on the individual cards.

    Perhaps I am a bit out of touch. It has been a while since I participated in an expo and I haven't been to an international art fair for two years now, so I can't speak of the concurrent ways how art display and -communication goes in the business right now...

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      I asked a local colleague and he said it was weird too, like they were trying to foist the job of actually talking to the potential customer and selling the piece off on me, while still collecting their percentage. Which is a bad idea, because I'm not great at communicating, they would undoubtedly be better at the sales' pitch than I. Anyway, told them not to include my number and they didn't. I'm sure that if I did get calls they'd just be weird calls anyway.