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5 questions by OddOly

From cowboypunk! Feel free to ask more in comments, I can talk a lot about this kind of subjects. And I'll leave you 5 questions to answer yourself if you say "kidneys" in your comment.

1. Tell me about your Devon :O!!
Devon is the guy on the right here, the one going "woo!" He is really fun to write but so is Nevan, his brother. The thing about twins is that everyone tends to assume they are the same, even more if they are conjoined. But back when I was considering the possibility of writing Nevan and Devon I was thinking "how would I feel if I had a family member I could literally never get away from?" My first thought was that I'd feel really miserable. My second thought was less mature - if that family member was someone in charge and looking after me and not mean then I'd feel pretty comfortable. That second thought is basically Devon. He's okay with his situation because if anything goes wrong Nevan will fix it and he'll always be there to fix it.

If you're guessing that Nevan is not comfortable with it all then you're right. Sometimes the only way to make a person grow up is to let them make their own mistakes and feel the consequences. It's hard to do if you're emotionally invested and almost impossible if every mistake will affect you as well.

The weird thing is that I came up with Nevan and Devon when I was discussing a character with multiple personalities and a remark was made that it's like two people sharing the same body (not always quite like that but anyway). I thought that it was not unheard of and after a night or two of research Nevan and Devon came to life.

It'll be a while before the brothers appear in the comic but I can tell you some of their backstory. They had a rough childhood - earliest part of it was spent being hushed up and going outside only in early morning or late at night and when their parents decided they couldn't handle it Nevan and Devon got institutionalised. Once you're in the system it's very hard to get out if you have no support but they (or strictly speaking Nevan) managed to do it and found their aunt who was okay with letting them stay at her place for an undefined time. It wasn't quite a happy ending though because the aunt recently lost her husband and started trying to get through it with daily doses of whiskey and Nevan found it impossible to get any job - considering that even if you get to the interview stage you are going to that interview stuck with your goofy immature brother. So at the time we first see them in the comic they are living in a very unstable situation, making late night trips to get groceries and Nevan is getting more and more depressed.

This was supposed to be about Devon but Devon is more or less fine with everything. Except if would be cool to have more money because then they could get a big telly! How cool is that, a big telly!

2. Who are the three topmost inspirational artists for you? (or, if you prefer a more general version, topmost inspiring people period)
It's hard for me to answer this because I can think of tons of amazing people but when I hear "inspiring" I instantly think "inspiration porn" and feel a bit sick. I like a lot of artists and writers - I grew out of wishing to be like someone a while ago but I see something I can learn from in a lot of people. So I'm just going to give a few random examples.

  • Art: I learn a lot from Pixar though it's a very broad definition because "Pixar" is a lot of individual artists (I buy "art of" books, I have a few favourite ones). I also learned a lot from Franco-Belgian comics (Asterix, Spirou, Blacksad) and American comics though I prefer lesser known artists rather than Marvel and DC stuff that comes to mind when you say "American comics". There is a lot of artist online whose work I enjoy but I don't feel comfortable naming any because I can't name them all and don't want to leave people out.

  • Writing: I learn a lot from British series. My three top favourite writers are Russell T. Davies, John Finnemore and Steven Moffat (yeah, controversial). The thing I like about Russell T. Davies's writing is his ability to be moral without being moralising, John Finnemore is very funny without being slapstick or pointlessly cruel and Steven Moffat is usually surprising. I wouldn't want to be them but I would like to be more like them.
    (I recently discovered Adam Hills and his humour is very similar to how I see Cop Story humour but I was not aware of his existence a month ago so he gets a separate mention.)

  • People whose personalities really affected me at one point or another: John Nash, Stephen Hawking (mum got me his book when I was a teenager), the entire Everett family (I'm referring to the scientist Hugh Everett and his children) and my step-father.

There's loads more, sometimes people fitting into two categories at once. I also feel the need to mention a BBC show called Life on Mars - I can't single out any person responsible for its creation but this show certainly influenced the person I am today.

3. What is the most absurd dream you remember having?
Not sure, I sometimes get really cool dreams, sometimes really awkward but mundane dreams and a few recurring nightmares that won't make sense to most people. Besides I consider any dream I can base a story on worth it so I don't feel really bad about those scary dreams of not being able to move - it's only fair after writing Quinton.

Okay, I'll tell you one scientifically impossible dream I had around the end of high school. I dreamed about my parents working (as programmers which they are) in some shady scientific research facility developing artificial intelligence and stuff like that. It was future in the dream but I was younger, 10-12 years old I think. One of experiments involved using a man in a coma as a test subject. When they weren't working with him they kept him locked up in a closet of sorts and I was just hanging around after school. And one day I came in that room when no one was there and opened that closet. And the man in a coma blinked at me. I freaked out but then I kept coming there when no adults were about and he slowly started coming out of his coma and we became friends. The most scientifically impossible bit was that nobody working with him noticed anything - the man didn't want anyone besides me to know he was self-aware but you can't exactly pretend to be in a coma in front of a bunch of medical professionals day after day.

I sort of want to do something with that story but like I said, it's impossible even in a sci-fi setting.

4. What are your favorite kinds of movies (or books if you dig those more)?
That's easy - crime drama (both movies and books). I find that this genre lets one think a lot - often about what it means to be alive and be human and what is your idea of right or wrong. At least when it's written well, when it's written sloppily it's pretty moronic. But I'll probably stop talking about it now because I can do it for ages and this journal is already long (if you're still reading at this point you get a banana sticker).

5. If you were a disease, what disease do you think you would be?
Huh, that's an unusual question. If I were a mental illness I guess I'd be schizophrenia, pretty sure about that. If we're talking about physical ailments, gosh, I don't know, probably some kind of neurological damage (CP or epilepsy or spinal cord damage or something) but I suppose I think that because I researched it a lot. (That and I guess everyone answering this question picks diseases that get discussed a lot, nobody is like "if I were a disease I'd be testicle cancer, yeah!!")

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    Also Devon and Nevan seem super interesting! (And then I make a comment about which organs they share/dont share just to fit in the word /kidneys/) Can't wait to see all these characters you have popping up in the comments.
    Questions about what sort of disease you would be is actually pretty interesting - even more so to hear what sort of thing you'd consider yourself. It's odd to think about - I'm unsure of what I'd even say about myself without having to explain personal reasons behind the choice aha.

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      They share most of digestive system equally, making it impossible to separate them. I considered other options but that seemed the most suitable arrangement story-wise and I won't get to write another pair of conjoined twins (at least not in Cop Story) because it's very rare. As opposed to mental illness, brain damage, spinal cord trauma and amputations where characters just sometimes "branch off" into other characters and it's possible to keep them all in one story - I already have enough disabled characters to fill a couple of small institutions (or organise Paralympics if we're thinking more positively). It just depends on the setting of the story, same as people we know depend on our social circle (which is why most statistics are pointless).

      Yeah, uh, when it comes to the last question I tried not to go into personal reasons, just answered the question, it's not the kind of question with one right or wrong answer anyway.

      And now my questions!
      1. When did you define major themes of your writing? Was it hard?
      2. Do you ever feel guilty for something you write/draw (when you make your characters' lives hard I mean)?
      3. Favourite book/show/cartoon (or some of those)
      4. Do you have any pets? If not, do you want to keep any?
      5. Any character you want to tell me about right now?

      The reason behind the first question is that I was coming up with weird stories about people in complicated situations pretty much since I became aware these things happen and started to come up with stories. But for a big portion of my life I was thinking "oh well, a cop in a wheelchair would be too weird, people will laugh at me, I guess I'll just draw some more cartoon dogs". Then I started getting more and more confident. Eventually I met some people who accepted me with my weird stories and who told me it was okay, it was good! They don't talk to me much any more (and it hurts) but luckily by the time it happened the boost was big enough to keep going on my own. This is the reason I don't say "I wish I never met them!" - I wouldn't have Cop Story the way it is now if I never met them.

      And since you also have "weird" stories I wonder if you went through anything similar.

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        Pff you have a great diversity of characters, I think that's one of the main reasons I like reading all the stuff you write about them/post about them in general. I considered conjoined twins but then it quickly just turned into them being just identical guys because certain parts of the plot wouldn't be the same if they had no way of separating themselves.

        Yeah, it's interesting to see peoples answers but I don't know if I'd ask for details about them purely for not invading privacy aha. And yeeup, no right or wrong answers.

        Thanks! I'll be makin that journal soon enough.

        It's great to have people encourage certain aspects of writing that you're shy on, it usually give you a lot more space to work on it and make it even better because 'hey, people are interested in this'. I can certainly say that your stories are very interesting, as with the characters inside them. It's weird how much people influence you sometimes.
        And yeah, I think I did go through something alike that. : P

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          Aw man, thank you! C: I also have a regular identical pair of twins in Cop Story (they are on the other side of the same picture I linked for Devon and Nevan), their relationship is completely different. It's sort of amazing how you can put characters in similar situations and they handle it so very differently depending on their personalities.

          And yeah, it's weird. I used to think influence was like "this person is so cool, I want to be just like them!" but it's much more complicated than that. People can be kind to you and make you worse, people can hurt you and make you better, people can teach you stuff they know and you'll learn something different and something only you can do from it and it's just so unpredictable. Cop Story is more or less about that - people affecting people in random ways.

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            Yeah, I've seen stuff about those guys too! And it is - especially with my guys because they ended up with entirely different childhoods/lives in general and writing their reactions to the situations they do end up going through together is pretty fun to write. I think that applies with all characters though, the differing personalities in everyone makes it a whole lot better writing/art-wise when you have well developed unique people to work with.

            Influences for me are pretty difficult. I don't think I can see how people have influenced me until someone points out 'hey, you do a thing like this person/ hey i can see the influence in your art/writing/whatever'. I can definitely see it as an interesting thing to think about and mman Cop Story just keeps sounding more and more cool aha.

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              Oh man, I really want to work with a storyline about one of those pairs of twins that get separated early and get totally different upbringing but that's just one of those things I find interesting, I don't have anything solid yet (my notes are full of this stuff, something I want to develop later on). There is a Cop Story character who has a half-sibling (is that a correct term? someone related through only one parent) they are not aware of but it's not quite the same and it'll be a while before I get to that story so I can't say more now. I'm awful that way, I keep talking about potentially interesting stuff and then being slow at drawing. I'll shape up. :S

              And uh, I guess me being aware of my influences is also due to my low self-esteem? (Though some people who claim to have low self-esteem are the most self-assured stuck-up bastards I've ever seen, I dunno if I count there as well. I might.) But thing is, most people come up with a story and say "wow, that's new, how original of me!" and stop there while they still feel good. And I usually dig inside my brain long enough to see what inspired it, find the bits I saw somewhere before, similarities and such. Which is why I never hide my inspirations and/or influences, I think everyone has them and more or less everything has been done before and it's not bad! I mean we don't decide to die just because other people had similar life stories before, in fact we're usually glad to hear about someone who understands what we go through. That kind of thing.

              Though it really bugged me (and sometimes still bugs me) when I draw something and instantly get a comment online "it reminds me of X!" or my mum looks at the drawing and goes "oh, you drew that because you bought that book about spaceships last week?" It's funny because I'm totally okay with this in more personal conversations and am all "yeah, tell me more, I want to see how other people worked with this subject, man this is great!" but when it's the first and only thing I hear it sort of makes me grind my teeth a bit.

              When I'm more depressed I think that it's because I'm not original enough and that truly original people don't deal with that but really, thinking that doesn't make anything better in any way so I try not to.

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                Yeah, it's pretty interesting to write! Especially considering they don't really get along at all ahah. And yeah, half-sibling is the right term. I think I used to have characters similar - involving Graye and one of his children - but then I decided it'd be more interesting to write awkward 'family' interactions with them fully aware of their ties to each other. I'm sure you'll get there eventually!

                It would be pretty cool to go through all my stuff and figure out the influences behind them. Now that I'm thinking about it, I can see where a few of my story influences come from. I remember as a kid most of my influence was /HOW EDGY CAN I BE WITH THIS/ and I've based a good few characters on that 'i need to be super edgy' mindset I had when I was like 10. Embarrassing influences ahah.

                Oh man when I get comparisons I get so paranoid. Usually it makes me rethink everything in an attempt to make it as different from the thing as possible. There's definitely constant worry about not being ~original~ enough but I think my worst fear is being accused of stealing things?? I remember creating a character and then a few weeks letter discovering an older one that was almost identical and then spending so long just 'i need to change it i need to change it before people notice'.

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                  There will be a lot of those awkward interactions when it gets discovered! I guess it sort of came from my personal thoughts because I don't know much about some parts of my family (family in the broad biological sense of the word - I am not close to those people and haven't seen them for over a decade but we are related). I started thinking about ifs and buts and bam! a new part of the story.

                  Yeah, I had an "edgy" phase too. "Wizards are so cool, I must write about wizards!" and so on. I think it's normal at that age, it only becomes troublesome if we don't learn to control that when we grow up (some of the hollywood writers clearly didn't, haha).

                  And yeah, it's hard to get away from the paranoia of being accused of being a copycat, especially in the Internet environment. But I remember me and those friends I learned a lot from used to do this thing where we would pick up some aspect to start building a character from and we didn't go "oh gosh, you have a character who does this, I will never write about that ever!", we did what we wanted anyway and got completely different characters with one similar trait as a result. I think that's more normal than accusations and such. Though to be fair I still avoid naming characters with the names those people used for their main casts (even though those were pretty popular names) but it's just another silly thing I'll let go of someday.

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    Ooh, twins! I have twins characters and it took me ... i don't know, 5/7 years to be okay with their design and personnalities? I guess the more I make characters, the more they are realistic/charismatic. I guess it's the same for you, do you have any characters you could be ashamed of today you did a long time ago? XD

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      Yeah, it's a work in progress, of course! The more you do it and the more effort you put in the better you get!

      I can't say I have a character I'm ashamed of but I certainly have/had characters I didn't write well enough, didn't understand well enough. My first comic (written and drawn around the time I was 13 if I remember correctly) was about a schizophrenic trying to escape from a hospital and I'm sorry, but a teenager with budding mental issues can not write an adult schizophrenic correctly. Even if they do research (and I did). It doesn't mean that I should not have tried because it's sort of ridiculous to expect people to get over 20 years old before they start writing but basically there are periods of life when you can't write anything decent (unless it's a lucky accident) simply because you haven't seen what life is like yet. It's really frustrating at that age, when the world consists of either people who pat your head for anything remotely creative or people who honestly inform you that no matter what you do your writing will be rubbish for a few more years, but really, childhood is not as endless as it seems then (though I never was one of those "I can't wait to grow up!!" kids).

      I'm still fond of the memories of that guy, he made my teenage years more bearable. I considered writing him again but it feels more like creating a new character with the same name since there's not much of that story I can actually use as it was written.

      And all of my writing after that till after my freshman year of the uni was even more crappy, I was mostly trying to explore "popular" subjects and realising it felt very wrong for me.

      Tell me about your twin characters! :D

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        Oh, that's neat! When I was 12/13 I tried to make a skyzophrenic serial killer for a comic! It was pretty lame.. XD I think, like you, I was too young. I was depressed, feeling bad in my skin, and I though it was enough to comprehend the psychology of an adult serial killer. I had read a lot of books about serial killers, but still, it was enough. The characters would please people on deviantART, tho, just, in real, it was so BADLY WRITTEN. But i've taken the good habit to whenever I start a new project, I read a lot about the topic (or look at movies)
        When you talk about "popular project" I imagine you drawing Naruto characters but with your current style, IT SOUNDS SO FUNNY HAHA.

        Well, my twins! they're part of a comic idea i've had for a long time. The subject has changed a lot, but not finally I've got a good idea on what's going on to the beginning until the end. it will deal about life after death, cults, with a lovecraftian ambiant.
        My twins are Ukrenian, named Stanislav and Amvrosii, they were born around 1920 and were soldiers during the second great war. They're not smart kids, kinda ugly, bad teeth and mostly dunno how to read. They're VERY CLOSE tho they could fight for a girl. One is more shy than the other, who's kinda the leader. Amvrosii (shy one) get killed by a bullet through his head during war, Stanislav, totally depressed kill himself after. MY STORY TAKES PLACE 70 years later, where there's this guy who have mysterious mystical powers proove he's a weirdo by giving life back to Stanislav and Amvrosii (who were skeletons when they were found) - so here are the twins, 70 years after the war, two white peasants, white trash, who died in Russia, in our modern society, when the twins are totally "Communism is awesome" and don't know what a tv is, and they think forcing a girl to sex is okay.
        The most recent pic of the twins => http://31.media.tumblr.com/829da67acd766670eac221813ba55e49/tumblr_mntza7Twii1rhl7gqo1_1280.png
        Just Stanislav => http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb4435DCCM1rhl7gqo1_1280.png
        I hope the links work?!