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Please Read: "why you should abandon FA" by tsunderdog
My friend Arche wrote this stunningly detailed article about all the recent drama popping up at FA. Please read this if you are uninformed and please spread it wherever you can. This shit must be made as public as possible.
https://www.weasyl.com/journal/26306
PS. Weasyl is currently my main gallery.
Please Read: "why you should abandon FA"
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Thanks, it was emotionally draining for me to put this together. I felt I had to because of how scattered bits and pieces of info relating to the debacle had been, and that it would help greatly to collect and put together as much of it as possible in one place.
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The problem is that that starts on the basis that Zaush is a rapist, and depends on that for the rest of the story.
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It does not change Dragoneer's actions regarding rumors and allegations. I do not want that kind of person in control of my media and communication.
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You should take a look at Ferality's story which is linked to as a source. There, you'd see how much pressure Zaush put him through before Ferality caved in. There was no consent in there. When someone comes out with a rape survivor story, YOU BETTER BELIEVE THEM. Statistics have shown that the allegations are true 99.4% of the time, and this is especially true since Ferality confided in Dragoneer in private for advice.
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Moreover, it has been shown time and again that rape victims are treated very poorly by people they once thought as friends. Why would anyone want the stigma of being violated around them?
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Pressuring someone isn't rape. And he had pressured her in the past, and she had come to see him repeatedly at his own house.
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Actually, as a matter of fact, it is. Simply because it is coercive, and consent is only given under duress. Also it's "he" I used male pronouns in my write-up for a reason, respect it.
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There's nothing coercive about asking someone for sex. He did not threaten the anyone or take any action to make them feel like they were placed in physical jeopardy.
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Are you fucking kidding me? How is being physically intimidated not classify as being threatened? How the fuck does constant pressuring intersperesed with verbal abuse not constitute constitution or being put under duress?
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Nothing coercive?
You keep using those words. I do not think they mean what you think they mean.
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"Relating to, or using force or threats"
Unless the dictionary is wrong, he did no such thing.
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Wow so really you think that is the only definition of coerce?
I was able to pull this up in about ten seconds:
"Main Entry: co·erce
Pronunciation: \kō-ˈərs\
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): co·erced; co·erc·ing
Etymology: Middle English cohercen, from Anglo-French *cohercer Latin coercēre, from co- + arcēre to shut up, enclose — more at ark
Date: 15th century
1 : to restrain or dominate by force 2 : to compel to an act or choice 3 : to achieve by force or threat
synonyms See Synonym Discussion at force"Definition 2 fits. Stop relying on semantics and selective definitions to defend something indefensible.
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Let's try that again:
Main Entry: co·erce
Pronunciation: \kō-ˈərs\
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): co·erced; co·erc·ing
Etymology: Middle English cohercen, from Anglo-French *cohercer Latin coercēre, from co- + arcēre to shut up, enclose — more at ark
Date: 15th century
1 : to restrain or dominate by force 2 : to compel to an act or choice 3 : to achieve by force or threat
synonyms See Synonym Discussion at force-
There was no force or threats at all.
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So Definition 2 keeps getting cut off:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coerce
Read definition 2
Force doesn't have to be involved.
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You'd have to be using a pretty broad definition of "compel" to make that be true. Asking someone something, even repeatedly, isn't really that compelling.
As it's written in the Dictionary, there:
: to force (someone) to do something
: to make (something) happen : to force (something)And again, he didn't use force, threats, or blackmail. Not to mention she came to his house on her own accord, knowing full well how he had acted in the past.
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You're banking on semantics now, and bad ones.
"I felt compelled to act."
"That is a compelling story."
http://www.prnewsonline.com/water-cooler/2012/12/26/10-words-and-phrases-that-compel-reporters/
Please. Seriously. Just stop.
The victim was compelled. It was rape. And all of your semantics about "Well it wasn't physical force/there were no threats made" make you look like an ass.
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I suppose then, when you broaden the definition of rape that far, almost any sex can become rape. But that sure devalues the word for what it's really used for.
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It's not broadening anything.
Rape is non-consent. Rape is coercion.
Consensual sex is not rape.
This really isn't a difficult concept. Please stop acting like it is.
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With the definition of coercion you're using, there's literally no situation that couldn't qualify as rape based only on someone's feelings later.
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So are you seriously going the "A woman can consent at the time and claim rape later" route? Because if so, you've just forfeited the right to continue this conversation with me. Seriously.
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Are you saying it doesn't happen, or even that it's not possible? By the sounds of it, this very well could be one of those cases.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rape
- the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
- any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
99 "no"s and 1 "yes" does NOT equal consent. Just because he drove to see Zaush does not mean that sex was on the menu originally.
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There's no reason to believe that he used physical force or unlawfully compelled her to do anything, though. There's no law that says you can't ask someone something more than once, particularly when they've repeatedly come to see you.
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It's still a shitty thing to do, and I can't believe you're defending someone who literally refused to take no for an answer.
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Oh, I'm not saying it's not a shitty thing to do, or defending him, but it's not rape.
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So just because there's no law against respecting another's decision and personal agency and their right to say no doesn't mean that not doing any of those things isn't a shitty thing to do? Really? The moment "No" was uttered, that should have been the end of it. His pressuring the victim was disrespectful and selfish and completely showed that he cared more about getting his rocks off than he did about the person he was talking to and pressuring.
He used the victim. Point blank. Because if it wasn't usage, then when the victim said no, he would have gone "Okay" and moved the fuck on to something else. The fact that there was pressure shows there was no consent, because if there had been, there wouldn't have BEEN pressure. The fact that the victim went over there before did not imply that sex was on the table. Only a "Yes" answer to "Do you want to have sex" implies that sex is at all on the table.
Sex is NOT a "Yes until the 'No' threshold has been reached" activity. Sex is NOT a right. And he had no right to expect sex from the victim and to pressure them once their answer was a clear No.
NO. MEANS. NO.
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Anything other than "Yes" is rape. Coercion, i.e convincing someone who isn't saying "yes" is rape. Bugging someone until they give in to shut you up because they didn't want to say "Yes" is rape. Any sexual contact without consent is considered rape. And consent CAN be withdrawn at any time, so continuing to have sex after a "no" has been uttered or consent has been withdrawn? Rape.
No one is entitled to have sex with anyone else, no one is entitled to another's body. No one has a right to anyone else's body in any way, shape or form.
In short, anything but a
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In short, anything but continual consent is rape.
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Best journal on the subject. Tempted to link it to people that are having trouble getting it, tbh.
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Definitely link it. People need to know what's going on.
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FINALLY! An explination!