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Signs I'm Under The Radar by Cyan Glaciertooth

I wanted to share this last Friday, but I had to do an unexpected errand that day, which kept me from sharing this. Along with the Loopy pic I completed and uploaded this past Tuesday, I had other things that made me postpone what I wanted to share with you, and this is the earliest I can post this, so here it goes...

During my weekend in Connecticut, I went to FurPocalypse in Cromwell. While in the area, I attended a Bridgeport Sound Tigers game on Friday night, and a Hartford Wolfpack game on Saturday night. At the Sound Tigers game on Friday, early in the 3rd period, I looked on the jumbotron the back of the Sound Tigers goaltender's mask. The image on the back of the mask looked vaguely familiar, and it didn't take long to recognize that the back of the goaltender's mask was the San Antonio Rampage mascot, T-Bone, but not just T-Bone...MY ILLUSTRATION OF T-BONE, as part of the AHL MAX series!

Sound Tigers goaltender, Jared Coreau played for the Rampage last season, which is where he got this mask. (The mask also has St. Louis Blues logos. The Blues are the Rampage's NHL affiliate.) After leaving the game, I went to look online for images and other content about his mask. I came across this Twitter video, from back in February, of Coreau explaining the goalie mask design. It ends with the T-Bone illustration on the back.

https://twitter.com/sarampage/status/1096173648271106048

It turns out, the designer of the mask altered my picture of T-Bone in a way where he's riding a horse, instead of standing in this pose in the pic that I drew. His name was also moved from above him to below him. T-Bone's outline on the back of the mask look less smooth than on my picture of T-Bone. I'm not sure if the artist simply just traced over my artwork or intentionally made the outlines that way, I dunno?

Here's my illustration of T-Bone: https://www.facebook.com/1439858582914493/posts/1999446763622336/

And here's the back of Jared Coreau's mask: https://twitter.com/RampageTBONE/status/1096161326349672448?s=19

Let me make a disclaimer that I'm not mad that the designer of the mask used my picture of T-Bone. I was just completely surprised that it was being used on the back of Jared Coreau's mask. That being said, I'd still like to know a few things. Where did the artist find my picture of T-Bone? Secondly, what made the artist choose to base Coreau's mask design on my picture of T-Bone? (As a courtesy, however, artists should ask permission first to use others' content before doing so. Again, I'm not mad that this happened, just heavily surprised.)

If there's any other artwork of mine (AHL MAX, fan art of other characters I've done, etc.) being used on other things, I'd love to see them. Someone once asked me about using my pic of the Texas Stars mascot, Ringo to make a button and give it as a gift to the Ringtail himself. She has permission and I would personally love to see it!

Now, if you'd like to comment on this, feel free to do so, but I don't want any drama to break out regarding this. Please, keep your comments civil. Thank you.

Signs I'm Under The Radar

Cyan Glaciertooth

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    Regardless that you may not be mad about it, you should demand royalties or sue them. Tracing or using your artwork on WEASYL OR FURAFFINITY is bad enough, but to use it in any corporate manner is just downright illegal. You should be paid for their use of that and earn royalties for any further usage.

    Very seriously, sue them!! That's not okay, even if you aren't upset over it (which I'd be like "holy crap sweeet!!" myself), you are entitled to be compensated for the use of your artwork.

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      When I created AHL MAX, the series was not meant to be something I would try to make money off of. (The mascots are all already copyrighted, so chances are, I wouldn't be allowed to make money from these pics, anyway.) The way I see it, the artist BARELY stayed within the boundaries of how this can be used. For one, instead of it being an exact copy of my pic, he made some alterations, like the horse he's riding. If the image was taken without altering it, then I would've went and sent a message to the Rampage organization about it, telling them it's my art and I should get credit for it. There's also no specific proof that the artist claimed that he drew this from the ground up and didn't copy anyone else's content to make it. He might have been influenced by the art that I've done to make this - who knows? Oscar Wilde said it best when he said "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness". The designer may have admired my rendition of T-Bone and decided to base his illustration on that. However, I would like to get in contact with the artist, Jared Coreau, and/or the Rampage organization and speak with them about this before taking action. A lawsuit wouldn't be an appropriate action at this point, unless there's further evidence to warrant it.

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    Well an artist can't manipulate an image any more than they can straight-up copy it. Using an image without permission is illegal; whether it's traced, altered, or blatantly copied is actually irrelevant. Whether you choose to pursue it is entirely your choice. Also, an artist does not have to claim the work to be theirs or not. The fact of the matter is, an artist is required to obtain permission prior to using the works of others. The original artist may request that credit be given, or they may choose to allow the artist to use their work as they please. But an artist can't copy something they found without permission, regardless whether or not they claim to be the original artist of that image.

    The part where you said, "He might have been influenced by the art that I've done to make this" is actually exactly what copyright infringement is! If something is influenced too heavily by another (which it definitely is in this case), that's what that's all about.

    Again, whether you choose to actually do anything about this is of course up to you. Good luck either way! :3