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Nostalgia Critic and What Is Good Criticism by MLR

I guess the whole world is up in arms over one Doug Walker's latest creation: his video about Pink Floyd's "The Wall".

I've been thinking for some time about maybe expositing on criticism and critique, so now seems like a pretty good opportunity, as the linked video I think is an interesting case study in this regard. The backstory here is simple: I have been conflicted about whether I should continue criticizing works here and elsewhere as I read them, and if so how I might go about it with a bit more... I don't know, maturity?

Probably maturity.

I admit I totally loved The Nostalgia Critic (hereafter, NC) back when it was new. I was an undergraduate at the time, I want to say freshman or sophomore, so it was the kind of thoughtless, exaggerated cartoonish garbage that appealed to me. I also enjoyed Family Guy, and I bet, if it had existed at the time I would have totally been into Cinema Sins.

I have since done a 180 on such things, but I can't say honestly that they didn't leave their mark. There was, and is, a bad guy in me who loves seeing someone do "takedowns" of "bad" media. Gotta' love sarcastic wit, right, in all its forms. And doesn't garbage like "The Room" or "Space Jam" totally deserve it?

Well, maybe not. What gives a person pause about that, because a person is quite selfish, is seeing said sarcastic wit leveled against things they legitimately love. For me, regarding the NC, it was his review of the original film version of "It", in which he decided to trash talk Stephen King himself in a manner showcasing how little Stephen King he's apparently read. Boy howdy, it's extremely annoying to hear someone berating something great with bad-faith criticism, isn't it? But the thing is, I still internalized that shit. So deep I didn't even realize it until, like, a few years ago. Thanks to sasya sasya, I'd say, for forcing me to come to terms with my own inadequacy in that regard. And, by the way, sorry for that shit review I left on Amazon. I deleted it just now (not that that helps anyone but myself).

Overly negative critique is entertaining to read or to listen to, sure, but I think I can't deal with it anymore, from me or anyone else. From the critic's perspective, I'd say now it's good mainly for closing off potential avenues of joy from your life. Because in the end, there's always someone out there who loves the thing you hate, right? So isn't it healthier to try to understand that love, and then try to internalize it yourself? It's just a nicer feeling to enjoy something than to despise something. I already do this with food. I'll try anything as long as someone considers it edible, because I now understand that there are more flavors than sweet or salty, and they come with their own funky pleasures. You can acquire acquired tastes.

But I don't know, man, it ain't that simple when it comes to art. Art can have toxic ideas embedded in it, for example. Coming back to "It", I still maintain it's a great horror novel, which plays expertly on the kind of irrational fear that we all experience as children and drags it up into adulthood in the form of an epic battle for the heart of a poisoned small town. It's weird and creative, what with the alien backstory and the celestial tortoise stuff. But the children in it also all make their pact by fucking their token female friend, which is like... gee whiz, I get the intent, but there was a better choice to be made there when it comes to unintentional symbolism. And in the effort to be positive, one should not ignore such things if they bother you. And if they bother you, they might also bother the author, deep down, and so isn't it helpful to them to let them know, on occasion? Particularly in a small community like the furry fandom, where critique is hard to come by in the first place, and there's so much pressure to be uplifting to all our fellow down-trodden creators, because we're all writers and artists and musicians and we know how much work actually goes into making something?

There's a conflict there in that last sentence. I hope you saw it.

If we take this video of Mr. Walker's again, well, it is a piece of art. From all the cries of how "cringeworthy" it is, and how terrible, and how awkward, and how embarrassing... in the end, it is a forty minute long sketch with songs, animation, and CGI that a big group of people took months to put together, so who the fuck are we to put these people down for making it? Even if it makes you cringe, isn't it also kind of glorious? And if it is, doesn't that mean that it succeeded, and shouldn't we be also celebrating that?

Or should we hate it because he spends most of the video berating someone else's very personal, very creative work of art using bad-faith criticism, only to coyly summarize his "real" thoughts on the movie at the very end for the sake of a cheap joke? Because that's bad, right?

Can something be simultaneously both great and awful? Is everything worthy of thoughtful exploration? How much work on the critic's part does it take for their criticisms to become generically valid? Must one fully explicate a poem to decide whether or not it's "good" or "bad", or is it ever worth employing such reductionist terms regarding art? And if not, and if every piece of art is worth exploring, how then do you decide what fucking star rating to give a book on Amazon or Goodreads?

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Nostalgia Critic and What Is Good Criticism

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    Good critiquing is an art form in of itself.

    Unfortunately, the rise of the Internet has encouraged folks to lazily become 'snarkers'.

    Sometimes having crickets on one's submissions may be a good sign.

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      I don't know that I'd blame the internet on that one entirely. If you think back to the most popular critics (e.g., Ebert), they tended to (by nature of their TV shows, mostly) condense their critiques of movies into sound-bites with a bit of justification, and because they had to critique, like, a movie a day they didn't have the time to really give any individual piece of media a proper exploration. I think people probably just took that format and distilled it even further. Mostly for the sake of humor at first (see: the Angry Video Game Nerd, the joke being that it's absurd anyone would get so heated over a 30-year-old Nintendo game no one even remembers anymore), but then egos get in the way and the jokes get gradually superseded by real opinions*. Normally I wouldn't worry, but I'm pretty sure that stuff had an impact on how I viewed media, which I've been trying hard to scrub out.

      *Relates to the "it's just satire" defense coming from e.g. the Cinema Sins channel. Can't be parody or satire if it more or less exactly reproduces the thing it's purportedly making fun of.