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Rehgan

I've heard the thought before, but I've seen it crop up again recently in my internet wanderings and it made me think.

The way it's presented always makes it sound like it's meant to dissuade people from WANTING gender equality - but that's just silly. It should dissuade us from smacking each other around...which we should not be inclined to do ANYWAY...but...

Self and Art (c) J. "Rehgan" Fitzmaurice

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    Agreed o3o/

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    I'm reminded of a quote by Robert Heinlein:
    Whenever women have insisted on absolute equality with men, they have invariably wound up with the dirty end of the stick. What they are and what they can do makes them superior to men, and their proper tactic is to demand special privileges, all the traffic will bear. They should never settle merely for equality. For women, "equality" is a disaster.

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    That one liner comes from the gap between what women have gained in equality and what they haven't given up yet that came with all of the old fashioned "chivalry" that men are trained in to. Women aren't simply treated as lesser, they're treated differently.

    For all of the patronizing and excluding and objectifying toward women that was/is woven in to the culture, there have also been things men have been told to take the brunt on, like the bill for a dinner date, and little ground to stand on for men against objectification or exclusion by women. The point behind that sliver of an argument is that the equality goes both ways, and that there are things for men to be released from too if the gender gap's going to be closed.

    Of course we shouldn't all be hitting each other, but god bless if you believe we're at a point as a species where that's going to happen any time soon. It's kind of a facetious point to make and doesn't really approach the point of the phrase, though it has been reduced and perverted so much as a sound byte that it's not really telling of its original point any more.

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      I know where it comes from, it still just seems like an incredibly unnecessary thing to bring up. It strikes me as a moot point, because it should not be a deterrent from equality. It doesn't make sense to me for anyone to think of having the ability/equality to hit a woman as something to be released from, and honestly, if you're a violent person - you're going to be violent regardless (because men technically "can't" - or at least shouldn't - hit men either, yet...).