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imho (rape accusation thing) by rust
weasyl staff dealt with this rape situation pretty damn well.
http://pastebin.com/Gmi17dka
https://forums.weasyl.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?6727-A-Few-Words-on-Our-Callout-Guidelines&p=75340#post75340
their only mistake as far as i can see was not being as clear in the first note to the user as they were in the second. i don't think they come off as rape apologists, as are clearly conveying their sympathy and support to the user.
protecting themselves =/= protecting the rapist
if you have differing opinions, i'd be glad to hear them!
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I feel the same as you. Having a policy means having a policy. I'm sorta confused when I see journals where people claim that they're "TOTALLY leaving" over this. The staff just seems like they want people to use the website as intended. That's all. They sound supportive to me too, they're just saying "please not here."
Also, I feel as though horrifying crimes shouldn't be sorted out on furry art gallery websites.
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exactly. however, i do see why someone would post stuff about that here, since it is an issue within the community, and spreading the word is a good way to prevent people from going through the same thing. only trouble in this case was the direct link.
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You're right about it being kinda relevant, since it is within the community. It's not a bad idea to warn people about what happened. People just need to go about it in a different way.
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that was my thoughts on the matter too actually.
its sad thay its been blown up in such a negative way by some.-
yes, i feel like people are far too quick to attack without understanding both sides of the issue first.
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it's tricky because in the grand scheme of things this does offer the abuser protection, especially with the context of being in a society where victim blaming is extensively normalised -- there are some admins who have some pretty toxic attitudes in regards to this (that tend to fall in line with the toxicity of progressive moderation in general), and whose attitudes are reflected by some of the community responses that are immediately vitriolic towards the abused, even if implicitly; but this was what they believed what the safest course of action was for themselves with the intention of being sympathetic.
even though i'm uncomfortable with a lot of things, at least a hopeful sign is that they're trying and i'm hoping that there will be learning and growth from this. so the second part is observing the aftermath
rape apologists though? perhaps not any more so than the aforementioned normalisation of complicit attitudes towards this sort of thing in the first place :c
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by jove this is a well written response! i hope mine can be just as articulate (but it prolly won't be haha it's like two am here shh)
yes, i see how it protects the abuser, and i'm wholly against that. i also agree that it sucks to live in a world where victim-blaming is the norm. i honestly get so angry that particularly in cases of rape, the victim is the one under the spotlight, and not the abused.
in this case though, the admins were willing to allow the journal to stay up, so long as the direct link to the abuser's profile was removed. mind you, not any link, just the direct one. in the transcripts and the letter addressed to the user who was raped, the admins state that the user may direct people toward the abuser, just not through a direct link. so in this case, they aren't banning the user from exposing their rapist entirely. the user just had to just format it differently, because if the rapist wanted to, he could take the admins to court for leaving the journal up. i'm no law student, but that's what i got from the transcript.
i just feel that people jumped the gun far too quickly on this and should've given it more thought before leaving. but if they want to it's up to them. personally, i rather like this website, and i feel like it's got a bright future. the admins handled this issue gracefully, and though their initial response wasn't perfect, i like to believe they'll learn from this and continue to grow.
i hope that made sense lmao i'm so tired uvu;;
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i'm writing to let you know that the only reason i didn't respond was because i took like an online hiatus rofl
your point makes sense i was just sort of affirming it? my post had a lot of long words because they're fun to use but sometimes it obfuscates clear meanings so w/e, rip keyra
people have reasons to be upset and it's all about that internalised rape culture thing so i don't blame anyone for it. it doesn't make the situation anything less but tricky anyway. there isn't really a good solution and some significant side is going to lose from this
i haven't followed up on any of this so i'll probably end up seeing what's been done the last few months
ps. stay rad
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Ahhhh I have no differing opinion from yours. :)