Finally got an example of these two kinds as babbus. Vivian and Olav used again (why the hell not). They are eight years apart so they never were around each other until early adulthood. Vivian was a big fluffball so her wings are hiding under it all. Olav loves to mess with expectations. He's too cute to live. Not so cute once he reaches a certain age though, haha. The fluff on him fell off around the time he was walking regularly.
Link
Torble
Cuteness~