I redesigned them both and I am happy with the results. This time I wasn't lazy and did Whirlwind separately and have the proper body size, I believe.

These will be put into ref sheets for them, which will probably include their vehicle modes too...unsure about that.

And...you can see I fail at drawing the Autobot symbol from heart...I have to look at pictures in order to draw it better than that, oh well.

Characters and art belongs to me

Transformers/Cybertronians (c) Hasbro and Takara Tomy