19 April 2015 at 18:35:37 MDT
red flags when selling art at a convention!
Based on a conversation I had with Painted Dog during our 5 hour drive to Atlanta last weekend!
Just a few notes :
on 19 April 2015 at 18:42:29 MDT
When I hear 'no artist ever gets it right' it's like a challenge! First, if they're expecting me to mess up the character or design, fine, there's no pressure! And on the off chance I do get it right they always look so happy!
I think SL screenshots can be the worst though xD Mostly its the ones that are the full body but aren't very large... :c
on 19 April 2015 at 22:12:56 MDT
I feel like i upset some of the SL people on twitter, i did not mean to do so D: when i passed this around my private twitter account, a few friends suggested that for one of the panels. I immediately agreed because i have issues with SL screenshots too, but I suppose not everyone sees it that way!
on 20 April 2015 at 12:36:22 MDT
Did they at least set up the screenshots ref style? I know when SL was the only place my fan existed I at least made sure to pose it and set it up as a standard all angle sheet and not just some random screenshots :V
on 20 April 2015 at 12:58:30 MDT
This is many, many refs over many years. I can only speak for myself right now, but the texture thing on SL is a bit of a problem for me in particular. Are those spikes? Fur fluffs? Feathers? Stuff like that.
on 19 April 2015 at 18:48:51 MDT
Not exactly one from my experience at a con but "I can't pay you yet but can I pay and pick up my commission after (X)".
Majority of the time it's happening from someone that asked for a slot who can't afford it, then want to pay you with their next paycheck...and they never do.
on 20 April 2015 at 12:58:45 MDT
Definite red flag!
on 19 April 2015 at 19:07:49 MDT
"Sooo, I should come back in 5 minutes, right?" and "Can I stand over your shoulder and watch?" have led to some good experiences though. Some artists churn out same-day work in record time, especially if you hit the Den at a quiet moment, or business is slow. Watching good artists work, if they're friendly and don't mind, has also helped me learn art techniques, but it was never something I commissioned myself, that would just be awkward. ~_^ I should add it was actually "after hours" when they were in the late-night grind of getting through the day's commissions, so they didn't mind the company.
on 19 April 2015 at 22:10:09 MDT
I'm all for people hanging out and watching, just not when i'm at my table, normally trying to draw multiple things and talk to multiple people at once. Like, if i'm hanging out gather round and watch me use up my eraser, haha XD I actually used to do caricatures at WDW for a living, and I sort of got used to the watchers. It can be unnerving in a high pressure situation!
on 19 April 2015 at 19:59:12 MDT
Yup, yup.... ><
on 19 April 2015 at 20:08:58 MDT
haha, goddamn, the second life screen shots....
on 19 April 2015 at 20:09:53 MDT
I mean, echoing your sentiment about SL; it's fine mostly, but with that weird occasional "what am I even looking at"
on 19 April 2015 at 21:32:15 MDT
Well that's true of the internet in general haha~
on 19 April 2015 at 22:07:20 MDT
lol yes, exactly :D
on 19 April 2015 at 21:31:47 MDT
I hate the "Draw it in someone else's style" one, but I do like to watch the artist draw i if I can. :3 I mean, if you want it in someone else's style, go hire them!
on 19 April 2015 at 22:08:27 MDT
I don't mind people watching me draw if i'm not, like, at my (usually busy) convention table, yanno? I actually used to do caricatures for a living at Disney World, and there were aaaaalways people watching!
on 19 April 2015 at 23:39:58 MDT
Oh wow, that's really cool! How old were you, if you don't mind me asking?
on 20 April 2015 at 12:12:27 MDT
In my 20's, with an art degree XD It was good, fun work. Just not reliable, since we were a commission based business. If it rained all day and the park was empty, i got no customers and no money.
on 19 April 2015 at 21:39:03 MDT
BINGO! I mean, uh, BIN!
on 19 April 2015 at 22:10:30 MDT
If you want it in some other artists style, go ask that artist o.0.
on 20 April 2015 at 12:11:54 MDT
on 20 April 2015 at 18:30:12 MDT
Besides, your style is awesome
on 20 April 2015 at 06:11:28 MDT
Bonus points if they dump their coffee/sandwich/bag on your table while they get their references/money out!
on 20 April 2015 at 12:11:47 MDT
oh yeah, that does tend to happen quite a bit too!
on 20 April 2015 at 10:04:12 MDT
I have a terrible habit of praising an artist for drawing well something that another artist drew unsatisfactorily. Not quite the same as box 1 here, but negativity is often a bad path. Thankfully I was far too embarrassed to ever buy a commission in person! This creature is pleasantly oblivious to the destruction being caused.
Komos and Goldie
on 20 April 2015 at 12:56:35 MDT
Not being arrogant, but I have found a few 'big' artists who seem to have trouble drawing Komos & Goldie.
on 20 April 2015 at 14:03:51 MDT
I had someone pull up a chair in front of my table to watch me do the commission one time. it was a slow con and there weren't many people, but i was just like .... um...?
on 20 April 2015 at 14:18:43 MDT
on 20 April 2015 at 19:42:57 MDT
I LOL'd at the "sticky money" thing too! I have an experience from work where someone actually had money in a ziplok bag... No it wasn't that kind of sticky but it was pretty nasty (they picked it out of a screening dumpster at the sewage treatment plant). Kind of a story but still - it does happen. So, yeah, avoid the sticky money or just use gloves when handling payment! :D
on 20 April 2015 at 20:39:51 MDT
haha, wow, If only this was a bingo bored. X3
on 21 April 2015 at 15:12:38 MDT
i didnt ask if i could stand over them to watch >.> but i have asked an artist if i could set up my goPro to watch them do a sfw commission and put the video into a youtube explanation of what furries are
on 23 April 2015 at 08:18:10 MDT
I myself had some issues with commissioners be it ver few since I just started last year, I have heard one say, "if I don't like it does it mean I get my money back?" That one stresses me out the most from my experience.
on 8 February 2016 at 23:41:36 MST
I lol'ed at the "Sticky money" bit.