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I suppose it is relevant. Someday I will figure this all out, but I wonder if the pathetic orange snake-thing ever will.
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That is how I perhaps ought to approach it! But i become too jealous too easily when somebody else receives recognition for something I can do and/or already did, and think I just need to try harder. Plus massive anxiety that my time is running out, which I seem to think the cure for is to declare that everybody else is an idiot, which then reduces my chances at recognition yet further!
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Personally, I think the next big thing will be alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.furry . "If you can't figure out how to uudecode, why are you even reading this?" :D
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the hip new artists are all posting their content to a dial-up BBS hosted at a college in Montana
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I've noticed some artists using posty-birb to post across multiple sites. Not sure if the extra exposure would help, but thought I would mention it anyway.
Unfortunately, good art is only a part of the equation, you need to tap into what people want, and you need to be able to play the people game. Perhaps look at a youtube of marketing if you want, not so sure about the people game. Psychology or something? I'm the last person you should ask! But I'm guessing the snake has tried all of that by now.
I tend to watch people with regular content, and, while it's probably just me, a sketch a week is a lot more likely to get my attention that a brilliant piece once a month.
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I post on loads of sites! In fact the more I use, the less anyone seems to care. And something like posty-birb doesn't necessarily suit me since I like to customize the upload text. Beyond that I am not keen on "posty" or "birb" appearing on everything! However I may investigate it eventually.
I cannot play "the people game." I realized, the reason I lose, is because I keep being mistaken for a certain type of "cartoon artist" who enjoys certain things, which drifts further from what I can tolerate as time proceeds. Literally anytime I try to depict something I don't like because I think other people do, I lose even harder, because somehow they can smell the insincerity in it, sooner or later. Marketing is deeply insincere. I detest when actual people start presenting themselves as "brand"s and would detest myself if I did that, all the more so if I screwed it up like I usually do! What is going to work for me, if anything will, will be something I have NOT seen anyone within my radius succeed at.
I worry if I post sketches frequently I will be disliked for wasting people's time with rubbish! Or that someone will not want to retweet the finished item if they already touched the sketch. I can win neither in practice nor in theory! However that may ultimately be a silly fear. I certainly possess far more sketches than anyone but me ever sees.
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Maybe have a word with other artists about sketches, mine is just one opinion.
Being odd is a disadvantage, but not a total loss, it just makes it a bit harder to get places.
I know what it feels like to be different. I tolerate idiots, but still see them as that. If they want to throw money at me for gratifying some simple need, I see it as an insult, and punish it by taking their money for whatever they want, they get no loyalty.
This has been a journey mind, it took a good few years of living on the breadline to make me realize I would have to sacrifice something, mainly my view that man is by nature, good.
I can't please everyone. I please the people who feed me, and treasure the handful that I can relate to.I used to be very insecure, but I realised that seeing things from the other person's viewpoint works both ways. I was always using this to make concessions for them. After some time the pieces did not fit. I have since realised that, actually, a lot of people are being very selfish, and rather than using this as an excuse to rationalise their behavior, I try and be realistic. I got angry, but decided, rather than losing it, just to ignore or use people that had only their own interests at heart.
Sounds a bit harsh, but these people have ruined my life, the lives of everyone around them, and are still doing it. I can't confront them directly, but I don't have to give in to them.
Ironically, you don't get respect from them until you start to tell them no. They see the very people who give them everything they need as trash.Marketing is often misinterpreted. Nowdays it is seen as hyping your product and making people want it. There are two parts of marketing an ethical person still needs:
-Advertising - not misrepresenting what you do, but making sure people know about it. Start with free options like art trades if you are a bit shaky in this.
-Market research - not the intense stuff listed in dusty textbooks, just sit down and think, who wants your art, which of them are willing to put bread on your table, and how do you let them know you are out there. A good start would be putting feelers out by, eg., a journal asking what your viewers want (Not terribly reliable, but a start). Offering a variety of services - ych's this month, expression sheets the next, character sheets the next, and see what gets the most interest.
That said, as a fan, my experience in this is limited. It would probably be worth your time asking a few successful artists. They won't all have time, and some may be jerks, but one or two will likely have some good advice.Wow, look at me go on and on. Ehhh... sorry, I hope that wasn't too off-topic.
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I appreciate your input! But it is worth bearing in mind I have been using art sites since 2006 and have done loads of commissions. Getting more is not the problem. If I can only be appreciated for drawing boring rat and dog people doing nothing I will never be happy. And art trades have almost consistently left me feeling disappointed and used. It may not be clear since I have not posted here regularly for quite some time! The other comic strips generally emphasize points like these. I like to imagine I can prevent myself from falling into at least the exact same traps in the future if I exhibit my present and past stupid decisions, for myself and anyone else.
Looking to "successful" artists is usually where the traps start. On now numerous occasions one or more has supported me for a while --they often watch my pages first!-- but then revoked it with no notice and kept on without evidently changing anything or anyone else. Repeatedly believing they are on my side for a while and then being tossed into the mud while others no less set in their ways than I am remain good enough hurts more than never having thought it at all. At the moment I use what resources I have to keep ubiquitous people and evidence of them as far from me as possible. Hopefully, long term, that will be a positive change, and I will make fewer spiteful comic strips, or at least have better topics for them!
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" Literally anytime I try to depict something I don't like because I think other people do, I lose even harder, because somehow they can smell the insincerity in it, sooner or later."
I was just reading an essay along this line of reasoning
https://hollylisle.com/writing-integrity-why-everyone-shouldnt-like/
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I've committed myself to stand or fall alongside Weasyl at this point. I've been in this game for eleven years and I'm reasonably certain now that the problem is not what site I'm on but that nobody wants the product I'm offering, which at least frees me up to do whatever I was going to do anyway