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Going to be 100% honest with you. by BlueNire

I think I figured out my art block thing and it reflects badly on me. :(

I need to start off first by saying that I have been diagnosed with Avoidant Personality disorder and I feel like it's all related.

Looking out over my online art-habits, there's a very distinct cyclic pattern.

I'd draw things, post them, then totally awesome people start to follow me.
I get really intimated, I start to feel the extreme pressures of feeling like "I must not disappoint people".
Every art piece has to be perfect, better than the rest and everyone has to like it.
My artwork becomes a direct reflection of my own self worth.
The pressure builds and builds, more awesome people, more expectation (self-projecting maybe..) it gets too much.
Then I start to develop the "art-block".
I'm terrified to fail, to make bad art- "What if someone doesn't like it! What if it's terrible..what if I disappoint people..."
I can't draw as well as some of the people watching me, why are they watching me?!! What could they possibly see in my art....?!
The self-talk gets worse and worse and it starts to choke my creativity.
Then as I slow down in creating art- I start to feel guilty for not practicing.
" I'll get worse if I don't draw!" " Everyone is progressing around me!"
Pressure continues until finally, I can't draw at all.
When it gets to that point I feel like I have nothing to give to people, and have no worth.
I feel I should just disappear if I have no worth.
I leave the website.

Time passes..usually at least a year... the pressures all lift slowly and I start to draw again.
I... feel this need to share with people too. I don't feel like the art has value if only I see it.
I start to draw again and I join another website.

This has happened 4 times already. (Elfwood (elvenbishounen), Deviant Art (bluehobbit), FurAffinity (bluenire), and Weasyl.)

I guess I'm telling you guys this because, I want to apologize to the incredibly awesome and amazing people here.
I'm sorry if I stopped talking to you because I was so intimidated by you or because I got jealous of your progression...
It's selfish and terrible of me. That's almost always the reason why I stop talking to people. I get so... I feel like people are so awesome.. and if I don't feel like I bring anything of worth to the relationship, I just pull away.

I'm really sorry for that because It is literally all about me then, isn't it? My insecurities...my wretched self-esteem.

So, at least I'm aware of this cycle now and I'm actively trying to break it.

I've got a tumblr of daily doodles I'm starting and I'm purposely making myself "fail" and post terrible art on purpose.

It's all in the hopes I can eventually come back to Weasyl (or somewhere)...to stay and just bask in (and learn from) the awesome-people's glory and yet still feel secure in myself and my own abilities. To not let my insecurities/jealousy/inadequacies overwhelm me....

That's the goal anyway.

I hope everyone is doing alright.
You're all incredibly wonderful and I just wish everyone the best.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, it means a lot to me.

<3

Going to be 100% honest with you.

BlueNire

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    I'm not Avoidant but I have other health issues that impacts my ability to produce art, so I can empathize with your situation. Good luck with everything!

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      I wish you luck as well! Gosh, I wouldn't wish anything like this on anybody. Good luck!

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    So glad you are making progress! Missed you around here. I hope that everything goes as planned for you :) Also, can we get your tumblr? I wanna follow you :3

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      AAW! I've missed you too! Your artwork is stunning and I've always enjoyed it greatly! Also, I'd be INCREDIBLY honored if you followed my tumblr! I do feel I need to forewarn you though- I do plan on posting awful "incomplete" stuff on there frequently! It's more of a theraputic blog than anything but if you're alright with that here it is! Thank you for your interest and support! <3 https://www.tumblr.com/blog/blueniresdoodles

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    I do the same thing [or at least something very similar] with relationships. I feel like I'm a bad friend and don't have anything to offer, especially with all my depression/anxiety issues so I sometimes straight up ignore/avoid people entirely until they quit trying to reach out to me. Then it becomes self-fulfilling. :/ I see the cycle but it's hard to change. You're not alone!

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      AAW! I wouldn't wish this on anybody, so I'm so sorry that you go through something similar! It's awful.. I really hope we can both one day break from this! I wish you strength and luck and good things!

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    I can really relate to that pressure, and worrying about other people's expectations.
    One thing that has helped me to build up my esteem (I still have a long way to call myself confident, but I have come far) is to always remind myself that I'm having a blog/gallery for no one else's sake but my own. This gallery and your Tumblr is your private space. Every time you have drawn something and you hesitate to upload it, tell yourself that your blog is for you. All the people that follow your blog is just a bonus.
    At first you might tell yourself this, but still won't upload the picture, and that's okay, it's not failure. Because just reminding yourself that fact is a victory in itself. To act on this fact is another victory that you don't have to win today, or tomorrow or even this year. Because building up like this takes a lot of time and energy, and there is really no point in rushing this.

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      This is absolutely INCREDIBLE advice and I deeply appreciate it!
      It's kind of an odd feeling when you feel like your gallery isn't your own (bigger than yourself?) and I do feel like I sort of lose ownership.
      (Which- I know isn't a rational feeling,really? Because each post is made by me.. )
      In saying such- I do feel that I need to take your advice to heart (maybe make a mantra out of it) and realize that I do have ownership!
      Also, the addition of mentioning those small victories is something I often overlook and I really should try to pay more attention to the baby-steps I do try to make!
      Thank you, thank you so much! I really really do appreciate your advice and time!

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        I assume it's only natural to want to show your followers your absolute best, especially if someone whom you admire is one of them... but it's easy to lose sight of why you created a gallery in the first place. :)
        It might sound really blunt, but remember that you don't owe your followers anything, and I think most followers understand that.
        I hope my advice helps you! ^^

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          Your advice really has been absolutely invaluable! Thank you, thank you again so much for your time and wisdom! <3

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    Glad to hear you're learning about yourself and working toward resolving your issues! I know it's hard but you'll be better for it in the end.

    The good thing about art though is that it's impossible to fail. Literally impossible. There will always be someone who genuinely likes a piece. I've seen pieces done by professional artists that look like they were done by a 4-year-old get appraised for hundreds of thousands on Antiques Roadshow. And even more than that, no piece is a failure because it's all practice. If you get a 100 on your 6th grade biology homework, it's a success; that doesn't mean you would hand it in to a research institution.

    And finally, a quote I found a bit ago that I've been throwing at all my artist friends with inadequacy issues:
    "A flower does not think of competing with the flower next to it. It just blooms." - Zen Shin

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      Sparta! Thank you so much for taking the time to read and reply! I really, really appreciate you!
      You've really said wonderful/important things. I especially really, really like "no piece is a failure because it's all practice" - this!
      I found this advice particularly eye-opening because I really really do have a terrible time of soaking this realization in.
      You're so right though- YES- it absolutely makes sense that, even the doodly "failures/awfulart" is ABSOLUTELY still practice!

      Thank you thank you so much for your reply!
      That's also a very lovely quote too! (Especially love it relating to flowers because flowers are so diverse and each have their own special beauty/function!)

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    Personally, I've never heard of that disorder, and while I've been out of the modern-day loop as far as psychological disorders, I feel like they're honestly just trying to put a label on everything, nowadays.

    Point being: I don't think you have a serious disorder, just maybe a bit of self-esteem readjustment to do. A lot of artists go through the same thing that you do; thinking that they aren't good, especially when they really are. Something you have to get set in your mind about art is that everyone has a very different style of doing things, and even if you think you're not good, you might just not like your own style.

    I struggled with the same inadequacy feelings about my own art for years, but I stopped posting on public websites for a different reason, entirely. You have to come to terms with the fact that you can only improve from where you are if you keep working at it, and all that progress that you see in others, they can also see in you. People might love every piece you draw, and be even more disappointed that you stop than if you were to put out a few things that you didn't think were perfect.

    You have to be the driving force behind your own progress, and behind accepting that even if you see all the flaws in your own work, other people probably won't. In fact, most people in this world don't have nearly as much talent as you have--think of what they might see in your work. The vast majority of people are probably going to see only that you do have a great lot of talent--and anyone who picks apart your work for all its flaws without your permission is just flat-out rotten.

    In short, if you don't want to read a bunch of long-winded text, you are always your own worst critic. Don't let it overwhelm you.

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      Not for nothing, but if you're not a medical health professional, you probably shouldn't be saying things like that and potentially undermining Nire's treatment. I'm sure you didn't mean it, but their therapist and/or psychiatrist probably knows psychological disorders and how they relate to their patients better than you do.

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        <3

        I will be honest- that one small part of their reply did make me uncomfortable. >.>

        I think I understand what they're trying to say? I know that there is a significant group people that believe that if you give names/labels to behaviors it'll give the "thing" more powerful "significance". Which, to them, is not good when you're really trying to get rid-of/fix said thing. For those people, "belittling their perceived issues/feelings" may help them overcome said issues? (idk honestly? does that sounds right?)

        BUT for another type-of-person (me): they may find strength/support/relief in having a label for their issues because it allows them to feel like their issues are valid, and they don't need to feel "silly/irrational/over-reactive/shame" for having said feelings in the first place. Also, the label for me has helped me more easily find others who suffer similar issues, and find ways to cope online, so...

        Ah, sorry Sparta- I know it's not you who I need to be saying this to! ha! >.< Sorry, if I'm preaching to the choir! XD

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        I wasn't trying to pretend to be a professional or anything. I understand that someone else has concluded a diagnosis, and that much is a fact--but in the grand view of things, many people are prone to give too much power to these things (and words in general), and while valid, we needn't let things rule our lives; fact or fiction. When it becomes debilitating to the point where it's interfering with someone's life and what they enjoy, it must be addressed and corrected so that it no longer does. That's all I'm trying to say.

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          I understand that, but it very much came off as more "Oh pfft that's just a load of new-age made-up crap, there's nothing wrong with you, just get over it, I got over it so you can too" etc etc, none of which is particularly helpful.

          Self-esteem issues are often a symptom of serious disorders. There's no such thing as "just" self-esteem readjustment. It's a long and often difficult treatment process of unlearning a lot of negative thought patterns and behaviors. It's just as serious as any physical condition that impacts a person's daily life.

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            It is--I'm not disagreeing with you--but I have every right to disagree with you, someone else, or a professional, all the same right. Just as anyone has a right to disagree with me, or disregard my commentary.

            What I was trying to imply is that there are a lot of problems with psychologists, too. Many of them are paid by pharmacies to push whatever drug they're peddling, and many more are just winging it as they go along, and new "discoveries" are made each day. It could simply be a self-esteem problem, or I could just be talking out my ass--there's no way to finitely know. Are they all wrong or corrupt? No--but people like that are honestly hard to find, these days.

            Maybe I was just raised old-fashioned, but even serious self-esteem problems can be fixed if the person is willing--no matter what it is they need to accomplish it; be it friends, chemicals, therapy, or simple willpower. Even reality is relative, and frankly, it is all in our minds.

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              You have a right to do whatever you want, but that doesn't mean you should. It's unfair to discredit a treatment that has thus far been working for Nire, whether you think it's Big Pharma or not. It's working for Nire and that's all that matters. Telling them their treatment is unnecessary and they could be doing it on their own is not going to help them and they don't need to hear it.

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                I wasn't trying to tell them not to do anything. I expressed an opinion, that's all.

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      Thank you so very much for your reply!
      You've said some really important things here and I really appreciate the advice and offered wisdom.
      What struck me most in your reply was, from what I understood as; The awful things that I think I'm seeing in my artwork- others might not be seeing at all! (or not caring nearly as much about as I am!) and that I should try to learn not to dwell on them-especially when, for others- it might not even be perceived! (Correct me if I've missed the point!)
      I feel like this is very true, and can really relate to a lot of things! I follow several artists who also feel really badly about their artworks- yet I can't see any of what they're describing- I just see their glorious beautiful artwork!

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        No, you picked it right up. I'm glad that you appreciated the point of what I was trying to say, rather than overanalysing every word. You have a great lot of talent, and I would hate to see you stop doing what you love simply because you think other people do it better.

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    Art is not about perfection or accolades or praise from peers. Sure, it's nice to hear "omg this is awesome" but what it really boils down to is art is expression. From a child's fridge-posted crayon doodles to a master's museum piece, it's about expressing yourself and your feelings in a way truly unique to yourself. There are many artists, but we all feel and express ourselves differently.
    I understand being intimidated by other artists, but we follow you because we enjoy what you have to offer, be it a super quick sketch or something that took you hours. We miss you when you're gone, and I guarantee you that none of us, fellow creator or fan, think any less of you or your work if something isn't quite 'perfect' as you see it. You have a style all your own and it caught my eye the moment I saw it on FA.

    I certainly understand poor self-esteem and self-confidence myself, as it's something I've been struggling with for most of my adult life. It can be difficult not to beat yourself up over things. One of the things that I gradually had to come to grips with is, as Azzy says above, we are our own worst critics. We stare at an image for hours. We see every tiny little flaw, even imagine ones that aren't there, and expect that everyone else will see those flaws too. But art is flawed. Because we're flawed, and we pour ourselves into it. Most people appreciate it for what it is, and those who don't, well, don't worry about them. ;)
    Anyway, I'm rambling, I just woke up, but the point is, you have a lot of people who support you and love your work, and we'll always be here when you come back. Hopefully in learning about yourself and how you work, you can figure out how to work through this struggle and keep drawing. I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't draw. I'd be lost.

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      Sidian! ::bows deeply:: So happy and honored to see your reply! ee! I'm sorry for the delay in replying! Thank you for taking the time to read- and share your advice! <3
      You've said some really wonderful things and I deeply appreciate the kind words and wonderful things you've said. I can't tell you how much it means to me.
      All I can say is that I'll continue to try to do my best to get better and it's just really, really inspirational/encouraging to find that an amazing artist as yourself can sometimes feel the same way as I do! (gosh!) I mean, I wouldn't wish the feelings on anyone, but there's a sort of great....support/encouragement?- that comes from feeling like the artists that I adore have also gone through some of the same feelings and yet- they're still getting through it and posting such wonderful things! <3

      Thank you thank you again for your time and reply! <3 <3 <3

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    We're all like that to an extent, Nire. Fear of being judged by others is a normal human behavior, so don't apologize or feel guilty for it. Better to just acknowledge it to yourself and see if you can break the cycle.

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      AAaaaaw thank you so much, I really, appreciate the comfort! I'll do my best!

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    The cycle of of producing something, getting recognition for it, then envying others thus getting discouraged in yourself - many people fall into this to an extent, especially artists (of any kind really). A couple times I've given up, took down my galleries, didn't come back until a year or so later when the feeling subsided. I think a lot of us know how it can be.

    Agreeing with Inanna Eloah above me; there's no need to apologize or feel guilty over it. I wish you good luck though <33

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      Thank you thank you sooo very much Rooc! It's an odd sort of comforting/encouraging feeling to know that I'm not alone in this! Thank you for the good luck wishes and I wish you good things as well! Please take care!

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    I know this feeling to some degree, and it is a very hard cycle to break.
    But consider that you can create art just for yourself, a secret piece of art made just for you that you can keep all to yourself. Create to make yourself happy, only for yourself. People love your work because you have so much love for the things you create, the beautiful designs and the love for the human(and non human) form that shows in your work.
    You have nothing to apologize for, and you are totally wonderful.

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      Oooh man I'm so sorry you can relate in one way or another! I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
      Thank you, thank you with all my heart for all the selfless kindness, the encouragement, and support you've given me!
      Your words and encouragement really does help- and I can tell you I'm always trying to be the best version of me I can be!
      Thank you thank you, you're amazing and wonderful! <3

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        You are an amazingly kind and caring person, and we all like so much even on your worst days. I hope you realize that. You don't have prove yourself to anyone, be the person that makes you happy, because you deserve that in your life.

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    I definitely know this cycle. On the brighter side, now that you know that it's happening, you can start building up the tools to help yourself! You can do this! Also, I've always greatly admired your artwork. You're one of the awesome people in my particular book. :)

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      D'AW ! Gosh, Lokilover, thank you! Thank you so much I really appreciate the kind words and encouragement! I'm so glad you've enjoyed my past works and I am so grateful to you for your continued support <3 I wish you the best and always hope you're doing alright! Please take care!

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        You too! You can do it! :)

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    Honestly to me it sounds like performance anxiety, but I suppose you'd know yourself better than i do!

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      You know, that's another good way to think of it! "performance anxiety"- hmmm maybe thinking about it in that way as well can be very helpful in finding ways to "get better".
      Thank you Myfi for your reply, I appreciate youuuuuu!

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        I believe in you <3

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    Hey man, who cares if someone else likes it or not! Art is about expressing yourself regardless of your medium. I like to look at favorites as encouragement to try to improve, but not an obligation because eventually even the best will find their plateau they cannot overcome.
    Another way to look at favorites and followers is that it's not the quality they love but something else about the image. I have artists I follow not because their art is exceptionally great but I like their style.
    Honestly, while high quality images are pleasing to the eye, I like the images I can feel so much better. The ones that looks like someone did a sneak snap shot of the person when they're in the middle of some activity.
    If you want to draw stick figures because it seems like fun or you thought it was funny then by all means go right ahead. None of us are expecting nothing but your best all the time. We just enjoy your theme, method, style, emotionalism, philosophy and more!