Removing all of our artwork from FA by TwoFancyOwls

Hey! Just a small post as a follow-up to our recent "deleting everything from FA" journal: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6599288/

For newcomers, you can request to have your commissions re-uploaded here through this journal: https://www.weasyl.com/journal/20533/if-you-want-us-to-upload-something-here-your-collections

Or if you just want to talk to us about it, you can do so here <3

Cheers!

Removing all of our artwork from FA

TwoFancyOwls

22 March 2015 at 16:58:32 MDT

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    Good for you! I deleted all my work from FA a while ago, was not easy but I wanted to have none of my work on that site!

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      Same here. Wasn't worth it.

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    Hi!

    Good to see you guys are still alive and well, and I can't blame you for pulling your art.

    Out of curiosity, are you still posting newer works somewhere else?

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      ...I should really peek at your tumblr before asking dumb questions like that.

      Still, nice to see you guys are still doing well! <3

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      Doesn't posting here count?

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    Don't blame you for leaving! Nice to still see you around <3

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    Since I stated it in the other journal: The page 9 quote isn't real. It never was real. It was a joke that myself and a couple of other people thought was, and we asked in a few places. People ran with it from there.

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      I'm not really sure why you're talking about that here since it was not brought into the discussion. The fact of the matter is, this (or an open-ended equivalent of it) is already part of the FA ToS, FA asks for these rights as well and basically just asks you to trust them. And we do, because this is an art site and it would be stupid of them to do something deceitful with it. DA the same (though have done deceitful things with it). It's a really common clause. The problem is what IMVU has a history of doing with it and a history of changing things when they tell people something else first. Even if IMVU came to the forum (which they wont since they are on record stating they don't want to talk to us) and said "we will not do this" that statement wouldn't hold any water. The fact that this has been a lie every time they've said it and it does not make this worth the risk for us.

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        Well, it was used as part of the screenshots in the original journal you posted on FA as part of your reasoning why you're leaving. You said you weren't going to respond to comments, so I'm here! I would feel really horrible if people thought the page 9 quote was real, when it wasn't and I was one of the people whom originally brought it to light unknowing that it wasn't real.

        If folks want to leave due to not having trust in FA, that's their prerogative. I just really feel responsible if they are leaving solely due to a quote that was never real, you know? I perpetuated false information, and just wanted to clear it up. If you're still going to bail, that's always your choice and good luck!

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          Ah, I see! The screenshots in response to the rumor where not posted to perpetuate the rumor itself, but rather the response to it (hence why we don't quote it or bring it up by name). Asking the question is completely legit, and every answer we've seen from him has either been a half truth or an evasion (if anything at all) and that's a problem for us. It's one thing to "uh and um" about "when are you going to do this thing you said you'd do". It's another to do it about the legalities of other people's work and how it ill be used by a new company that he will have 0 power over.

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    I've been watching you guys on here for a good while now anyway, and I can't blame you at all for wanting to fully cut ties with such a place.

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    Well, you've already got everything done for me up here. I do wish that more artists would at least mirror elsewhere, but... I guess it's just a "what can you do?" thing.

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    I completely understand! I'd leave FA honestly if I wasn't so dependant on it for income. My main worry is the art theft that is so rampant on IMVU. Sadly, removing my art from FA doesn 't solve this since their users steal from here as well.

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      Thieves gonna thieve. I can file against that with the site it's happening on when I find it. Can't really do that if the site itself is doing it for it's own ends though :/

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    Yeah, too bad I can't afford to focus on just here instead. Working up to 5000 watchers... then coming here and feeling like I gotta start over. Aaahhh. The struggle.

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      Well you got one more from me! ;D

      I'm in a debate about staying on FA or not. Not that much of my work is worth stealing (it's mostly traditional and I don't see that getting snagged as much) and not only that, I do mostly con badges! I just don't want to support what they are doing anymore.

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        Why disparage traditional work? It is for some people BETTER than digital will ever be.

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          I didn't mean to! My apologies! XD
          90% of my stuff is traditional!
          I was just making a point that most stolen stuff I see is digital! It's definitely not alwas true just from my point of view, the majority! :3

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    sadly you can't really delete anything from the FA servers. when stuff gets deleted from your gallery it's still in the stupid system because they are stupid

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    I would leave FA if I could too. But I still worry that I won't be able to have enough customers here, even though I have a decent watchcount for Weasyl's standards. :S

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      yeh you have a BUNCH of watchers here! You could totally do it. :3

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      I totally think you can do it! I have about half your watchers and I can pay my bills pretty good, but that's relative to how much money in bills you have. Maybe do a test run and offer comms only on WZL for a bit to see how it goes?

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    I haven't used my FA account in months, so I went ahead and deactivated it.

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    Yay another reason to actively use this site! :D Lookin' forward to seein more of you here ^^

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    I didn't put much stock into the original rumor floating around about the "page 9" quote, however reading your account of IMVU's previous track record of lying to artists leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I'm glad I left FA a while ago and don't fault anyone else for doing the same.

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    Deactivated my FA account some time ago (couldn't be bothered to spend time deleting all pictures manually though, I wish there was a way to just wipe out an account entirely but of course FA administration doesn't want that) so I understand. Good for you!

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    I need to wipe things on fa and move but it's such a long process. But I'd rather take the long process then have my stuff everywhere

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    how do you remove submissions from weasyl?

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      Dunno, never tried! There's probably a delete button on the images.

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        early after I left the comment I found the removal button. ty for replying