"I am SO disgusted by Weasyl and I AM LEAVING !!! Find me on FA and Tumblr, k? :)))"

Seriously do these people read what they're typing.

You're amazing Ali and I'm glad to see an amazing artist I watch stay here.

A few people may be looking for that perfect place that doesn't exist. The most you can hope for is a fairly rational team that tries their best to uphold their values, while still supporting the users to the best of their ability. No matter where you go there will be issues and disputes. You will disagree with something along the line. It is impossible to avoid. As long as the staff is trying to work with their user base and listen to their needs I'm all for it.

People will protect anything that suits their taste...

It's all a trend game

Soo... What did I miss and why is people leaving over it?

Everyone's just jumpy now since FA was so terrible at managing everything ever-- everyone's just looking for any and every excuse to jump ship randomly now. :T

They've already long forgotten this was dealt with 210% better than how that other site is known for dealing with things.

It's beyond me how people like this haven't just straight up LEFT the internet all together with being so trigger-y.

fuckin' bless.

like, i use tumblr- it's a good social platform, but the safety and community and the staff... well, they don't even compare to weasyl. weasyl showed so much transparency and fessed up that what they did was shit. no matter what in a situation like this, they were gonna look like the bad guys. it's a serious issue and it's very hot-button, so to speak.

i feel safe on this website- the weasyl staff have gone out of their way to do incredibly nice and helpful stuff for me, and I don't remember a time where admins did that without me asking for help or pointing out their own terms/rules. Weasyl has done it more than once already and has taken responsibility for their actions- which FA, tumblr, and other websites have rarely, if ever, done.

so i don't agree with the people leaving; but i'll let them. they're welcome to do so if they feel uncomfortable, but as a survivor of similar situations myself, i side with the staff. what else could they do? besides, they're human. they're prone to error. like... people seem to forget that, a lot. there are some sites where the staff just prove to be utter shit ALL THE TIME and won't do a damn thing to change, but good staff like weasyl can and will make mistakes like anyone else would.

Thiissss 8T While I'm not 100% on some of the stuff said in the apology, I'm at least very happy that staff is being transparent. (Now, uh, tumblr is v. concerning and I can't wait for Inkstand to open up.)

i was so angry and frustrated and honestly disgusted by how the staff had handled the issue and how they spoke about the serious subject in that leaked chat(which i understand venting, but wow no excuses on some of the things said so cynically and sarcastically), but i was honestly pleased by how the handled correcting themselves and apologizing. because you don't see that in many places(if anywhere these days, let's be honest here); staff who recognize they did wrong and actually speak publicly about it. /coughfacough

so good on them for taking active steps in improving how they handle things. because of that, though i'm still very irritated, i'm not gonna jump the fuckin' gun because, well... where else can an artist go? :/ weasyl is legit the lesser of many evils here and is overall the best choice to go to and stay a part of when it comes right down to it. so i'll be staying and attempting to get back active here.

i am glad to see some of my favorite/watched artists still stay as well. and show that they have common sense and patience rather than saying they're leaving and going to fa and tumblr which just... ok you have fun with that, those places are much more fair and safe. yeah.

How the staff handled the situation makes me love this place even more.

This. Just, all of this.

I'll never understand why furries need art site admins to be their elder sages, spiritual leaders, moral arbiters, and guardians and enforcers. Anyone leaving over this event is going to be just as outraged and disappointed wherever else they go, because their expectations are seriously warped.

I posted a rather lengthy journal about this. The sums of it is, I agree. And I honestly feel people freaking out about it aren't thinking very clearly. I mean the hurling insults as they leabe ones. I can't blame those who are simply put off and leaving in a more calm fashion

Thanks for this, I was getting kinda depressed seeing all the "I'm leaving" journals. I'm glad they want to try and keep a standard without exceptions and on top of that callouts are a really difficult issue. I used to help run a callout blog but it's just...it's shitty, people jump down each other's throats, and the call-outers (whistle blowers?) get harassed on no end. like it'd be awesome if a rapist could be held accountable for their actions but only if it meant the victim wasn't going to get dogpiled on. that's why i agree with their decision to restrict all callouts.

altho i do agree the comments they made about it were insensitive. i think with the chat leak they're gonna definitely make an effort to be more professional when discussing moderation issues.

unfortunately one thing that people seem to forget is that we're allowed to have our reactions to things, to whatever degree we naturally have them.

there are two parts to this: how the staff reacts and how the community reacts. the staff could have done better in their reactions (with some members having some very terrible attitudes that i hope will be immediately and exceedingly addressed), but they could have done a lot worse, if nothing at all.

in the grand scheme of things we're living in societies that are steeped in victim blaming, and a lot of the community responses to this have done more than enough to illustrate how quickly the user was thrown under the bus and whose claims/actions were immediately cast in doubt and shame.

so if there's anything to be learned from how similar incidents like this take place, it's watching your own reaction to these things and trying to sift through and discuss it without punching down at anyone else in the process.