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Jurassic World (and why I'm boring now) by FayV
Don't get me wrong, I was so excited to see Jurassic World. I don't hold these ideas that the movies need to be accurate for dinosaurs, I don't expect it to be realistic. I just want to see dinosaurs doing dinosaur stuff and this recent trailer puts me in two minds. If you haven't seen it go watch it.
The part with the great white being bait for that huuuuge water beast, amazing! I will happily watch that as a movie, that's what I want. Giant creatures that once were just fucking over the modern world. Yes.
Then it gets to the shit about "we made a hybrid" and now I'm just filled with rage and displeasure. Why, WHY? It's such a fucking stupid writing point.
So The original was not that amazing. The lack of foresight for the scientists was pretty bad but it wasn't outright pants on head stupid. There was some logic to that. We have technology to clone dinosaurs and breed them, we gene splice to make a viable genome, sweet. Why clone dinosaurs? because then we can learn a lot about these extinct creatures that existed so far beyond humans. That's a decent enough reason. The problem arises because 1. these things are sooo much smarter than we thought, but that doesn't make it impossible. 2. the genome fucked up. This is not great science, but it was small enough, especially in terms of what king of genes activate and which don't that it doesn't make it just stupid. 3. there's human involvement actively fucking things up for the group.
All in all, we get dinosaurs, some scientific hubris but not to the point of abject stupidity, and "clever girls" yay.
New movie. Why in the fuck are you making a goddamn hybrid, what in the fuck is the point of that?
"Fay, maybe they're seeing if they can even make a viable hybrid after all the gene splicing and stuff"
Hey random straw person anon, we actually hve tech now where we could just clone the thing to replicate the DNA at the cellular level without making offspring.
"Well you can't tell if it would make a viable living being from that"
Good point anon? but why start with a goddamn giant? Why not just mix microraptors? What happens if you get something the size of a chicken that's smarter than you? nothing much because you can still hold that thing in a cat carrier.
"Well hen it's not a movie, movies need conflict"
well yes anon, I get that. It's just tis conflict is literally so fucking stupid and you have to assume that everyone involved is fucking idiots for it to get that far, and I don't like it. I really don't. If they wanted a monster movie with dinosaurs they could have just done that without rebooting jurassic series.
Frankly it looks like the entire thing was a turd that they wrapped in a successful older francise hoping that the nostalgia would carry it far enough to make a profit before we all realize it's just a turd.
And this is why I am now an old spinster cat lady that can't have fun and I should just go sit in my armchair and yell about kids on my lawn.
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i don't think i'd be able to see anything past chris pratt's gorgeous face anyways
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My entire opinion of Jurassic World can be completely explained by a quote from the original:
"If I may... Um, I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here, it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could, and before you even knew what you had, you patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now you're selling it, you wanna sell it."
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I was actually a little annoyed about all the young pretty people. This is no offense to anyone's appearance, pretty people should feel good about themselves, but I absolutely don't believe that a bunch of scientists are hot 30 somethings. That's like, when you get out of phD.
I guess unless this whole thing is just SeaWorld with dinosaurs. In which case I believe it's staffed entirely be young pretty people and they would totally go "a big crazy hybrid is a great idea.
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I took a look. I also can't suspend disbelief from the juxtaposition of the crisis and the premise, so don't feel too bad. Honestly, if the plan is to herald something as a scientific marvel and then have it turn into a serious problem via an unforeseen consequence, I believe that "gross incompetence and total lack of common sense" doesn't work well when paired with a large team of brilliant minds.
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I might be sore since I've literally spent the past half year looking into bioethics, so it's like..."we've learned more about genetics in the past decade than the past century." and all I thought was "except literally any insight on the ethics and policies in place to make that nonsense not happen"
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"Do you think this idea sounds badass enough to get an NSF grant?"
"Hell yeah, let's go for it!"
And then, Jurassic World. :V
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I was onboard with it like you up until that "we made a hybrid" bit.
Then I realize "so this is basically just "Deep Blue See" now?" And I has a sad.
At least they're trading off Samuel L. Jackson and LL Cool J for Chris Pratt, trained raptors, and my forever hope that Jeff Goldblum makes a cameo.
Dat Goldblum laugh.
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Even the name Jurassic World was enough to put me off. But this... this is worse than Michael Bay getting hold of Transformers.
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Yeah, I hope the movie itself is better than the trailer. I was iffy at the start, then the hybrid thing and the guy from GotG showed up as the Australian-hunter-throwback and I'm just totally not interested anymore.
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THANK YOU. I was literally just telling this to my family. I actually didn't even watch the rest of the trailer after that point. Chris Pratt shows up and goes "hybrids?? that's fucking stupid" and I said "yup, I agree" and stopped watching.
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As a science nerd, it's kinda disappoints me, because it seems like they're trying to turn science into some kind of enemy, like; "Augh, look at what those evil scientists have created!" It reminds me of that Monty Python skit. 'What have the Romans ever done for us'?
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yeah, the 1993 jurassic park had a bit of the same vibe, but also in the 90s there was tons of concerns with bioethics and in vitro fertilization, cloning, and so on.
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I got from the original that when science is used recklessly to make money, bad things could happen, but this new one, at least from the trailer, seems to be a swipe at all of science, regardless if it's associated with a corporation or not :/
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I'll have to see it. I could see them going against the SeaWorld style of thing. Saying that painting yourself for science just just putting on entertainment is bad.
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I honestly think they should have stuck with the original humanoid dinosaur monster hybrid things. Like from that concept art stuff. Yet then again, I have a feeling the reason they may have made the hybrid dinosaur is the whole getting more money thing. Maybe now that they have interesting attractions they want to make even more money off of them with some crazy new thing they made up hyping it up. Which honestly doesn't make sense since you know dinosaurs in the first place would be massive money makers.
Either that or its a secret governemnt biological weapon which I highly doubt.
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I actually thought the trailer was awesome. And it makes me excited about it. Because one, we finally get to see what it'll be like if Jurassic Park actually opened to the public and when things go wrong, we get to see what will happen. And I'm actually excited for a hybrid dinosaur because it's a thing where science makes people do things just because. They want to test stuff out to see what can be done. I know it's not scientifically accurate, but there's a reason why the Jurassic Park movies are called "science fiction". It doesn't have to be accurate to make a good thrilling story.
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my issue isn't that it's not accurate, it's that the only reason at all is "this would be neat right?" it reduces science down to idiots fucking around with chemicals until something neat happens. It's the science that people that watch "ghost hunters" thinks exists.
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Well, that is how science fiction works. Movies like Star Wars, Star Trek, Jurassic Park, Iron Man, etc. does. There are stories that treat science like fantasy. But, that doesn't mean it'll make people think that's what science is. Because they know it's fiction and they know that's not how science really works. I for one do like the concept of them making a hybrid dinosaur because it could mean this:
The park is starting to slip in attendance and they need something to bring in more. So, they created a whole new dinosaur just to do that. But then, like always in movies like this, something goes wrong.
There had been many stories of science fiction where scientists created stuff they shouldn't. Take Frankenstein for example. The doctor created the monster because he wanted to bring a dead person back to life and when he realized what he did, it's too late as the monster rampaged in the village and in the world. There will always be stories where scientists created stuff they shouldn't. It's kind of a hidden lesson about how we should treat nature and shouldn't mess with it. And we should treat science with respect. I think that's the point where stories like Frankenstein and Jurassic Park pretty much says. There are some things science shouldn't mess with.
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God dammit, why can't there be ONE cool dinosaur movie that doesn't rely on antiquated tropes and shitty writing to present itself to the general public?! Dino anamatronics on the big screen again... maaaan, I'm asking for a miracle. Blararagh.
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You know what I want? Protobird aviary.
Like when you go to the zoo and enter the big cage area with parrots and stuff and can feed them? I want that. I want that for little archeopteri. just bouncing, climbing, playing.-
GOOD CHRIST, YES. I would pay all of the money to see the itty lil microraptors and confuscisaurnus (i do not know how to spell) gambooling about... and at least one archaeopteryx. Because of reasons. Cliché reasons.
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I love how even in the trailer, it's like:
We made a genetically mutated Dinosaur
-Don't you think that's not such a good Idea?
pshhhhhhhh