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Time to start car shopping... by Aldin

My '02 Impala has served me well for five years. It had 113K miles when I bought it. I recently past 185K. Standard maintenance until now. On Monday I'll sink a bit more into it in a single repair than I like, but it's safety related, cracked sway bay, bushings and can't recall what else. Much to my annoyance, the problem has been there long enough to cup the tires, which will need replacement by next year according to the mechanic. Then again, I've had that set of tires on the vehicle for 7 to 8 months a year for the past 4.5 years (studded tires go on it for the winter months). No major rust, which is amazing in this state which over salts/calcium chlorides its roads in the winter.

However, from past experience with GM vehicles, it's reaching the point, where it's going to start costing major $$$ if I keep it. In addition, I've got a younger brother down on his luck, who currently drives a '95 Buick that isn't going to pass inspection this coming December. This Impala as is (after Monday) would buy him a few years. Then again, he's gotten 3 more years out of that Buick then I figured he would. But first I need to find something to replace it.

It's my second Impala. My first was an '82 wagon/land yacht which had been the family vehicle that was handed down to me my senior year at uni. I drove that thing for 6 or 7 years, including moving everything I owned to grad school in West Texas and back. Engine blew on the Maine Turnpike with a full load of scouts (including the rear-facing rumble seat). Despite the blown engine, I was able to maintain highway speed for 3 miles to the next exit before it gave up the ghost. The mechanic who looked at it and declared it toast didn't believe me. He said that was impossible as I only had 2 working cylinders left (out of 8). I quipped back: Well GM must have known how to build engines in '82.

I hate car shopping. I'm also "allergic" to car payments. I've had bad luck with cars if a car payment is involved. I paid cash for my current car. I hope to do likewise this time around. It's not like I can't afford a car payment. I do make enough and have good enough credit that I could probably walk into a dealership and drive off with a new car and not a compact one at that. I just don't want a monthly payment.

Trouble is, that while I have more saved up then the last time I bought a used car, used car values are higher then they were five years ago. I would need about $8K to get something of similar age (8 to 10 years old) and mileage (100K) as the last time I was car shopping. I'm a little short of that. I could probably swing $7K. Problem is, there isn't anything locally in that price range. The big dealerships don't carry hardly anything under $10K these days. The little independent sellers are the same or they're selling vehicles as old as I'm driving now.

I'd love to have a wagon again. Except hardly anyone makes one. Subaru--too small, unless you buy a brand new Outback. Even those a few years old are too small for my long legs. I know, I went and looked at one tonight. Alas, with their high resale value, the one I looked at was 9 years old (LL Bean Edition Outback). I had to put the seat so far back to fit in it that there would be no room for anyone with legs to sit behind me. This is a problem as a scout leader who transports scouts now and then.

I don't like SUVs. My brother drives a smaller one, a recent (last 3 or so years old) RAV4. Nice vehicle, but I didn't like it when he let me take it for a spin.

At this point, I'd be happy to have another Impala. But they're very popular up here. People hardly part with them. When you can find one it's either got 200+K miles on it and is as old as my vehicle or it's a rental trade-in that's too new and five figures. Those in the '05 to '07 range don't seem to exist on the market.

Now, if GM were to bring back the wagon version of the Impala, I'd actually consider a car payment again.

My wife drives an '00 Ford Taurus Wagon. Nice car, but again, I don't comfortably fit in it. I've had to drive it on long trips before when the car I owned before the Impala was in the shop but work needed me to travel that day. It's not comfortable for me. And those are VERY RARE to find anywhere these days as around '06 or so, they went from a wagon to a cross-over SUV with it.

I'm not sure what else to look at that has lots of leg room, isn't a gas hog and I could afford. It would help if I actually had time to car shop right now, but I don't. Oh, well, we'll see. It's not an emergency yet, but I would prefer to find something before it became an emergency.

Time to start car shopping...

Aldin

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    I'd love to have a wagon again. Except hardly anyone makes one.

    I imagine you've looked through Volvos and Saabs as well, right? My family has been driving Volvo station wagons since I was born (25~ years), and I've carried on that tradition since I have two eventually medium sized dogs. They have pretty high resale value but if you don't have to end up servicing them with their expensive parts, they're beasts. Depends on how you define gas hog, though. I'm getting about 26 mpg average on my '04 XC 70, more than I expected for its size.

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      Thanks for the tips.

      I have considered Volvos. Problem is not just the high resale value, but here in Maine, due to the high amount of salt used on the roads, you don't want to buy a used vehicle that's more than 6 or 7 years old unless the dealer has brought it up from a southern state. Otherwise, it's a rust bucket and won't pass inspection for many years. Alas, the only Volvos in my cash range around here are 10 to 12 years old and will only be good, body-wise for a year or two if they aren't a recently relocated southern car. Recently relocated southern cars usually fetch $1-2K or so more (depending on the age of the vehicle) on the local market simply due to the lack of rust/exposure to road salt.

      Saabs around here have a bad rep. Most of what's still on the road are those after GM ruined the brand (that salt problem again). So, I haven't bothered to look at them.

      I define a "gas hog" as anything that gets under 20mpg. My '82 Impala was borderline, it got 18 in town and 24 on the highway, but it had a V8, so it was a gas sipper compared to other V8s on the road at that time. Your "average" mid-size SUV up this way is in the 12 to 18mpg range. Maine is a big, empty state. It's not unusual to measure distance in hours rather than miles just like they do in several western states.

      I'm also an active scout leader in the second largest scout district, area-wise, east of the Mississippi River. I cover an area a couple towns smaller than the state of New Hampshire in my volunteer work with the scouts. It's not unusual for me to put a couple hundred miles on my car in a weekend traveling to/from a scout event or 50 to 60 miles for an evening meeting. There are parts of my scout district so remote, that you need a passport if you want to drive to the nearest McDonald's and order a Big Mac 'cause it's closer to go to one in Canada at that point then drive back "down state" to the nearest one stateside.

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        Volvos from the 90s on shouldn't really have rust problems from my experience, even from the northern states. My father still drives his 850 sedan after 18 years, mostly in Minnesota and Wisconsin, and the family '00 XC has spent a lot of time in those states as well. I mean, his is about to kick it but the car has been great to him. I'm in New Hampshire and mine came from a single owner in New Jersey after 111k miles and 9 years, and minus the fuel pump injector everything has been perfect for the last 3-4k miles since I've had it.

        I don't trust the newer stuff, though, even though I technically drive one in the '04. Even moreso with them getting sold to the Chinese, I don't think Volvos will be in my future for that long, as comfortable as I am driving them. I do see an insane amount of XCs up in New England though.

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          And the most insane thing about all the XCs up here is that if you read reviews about Volvos those who have had the most problems are those who have owned an XC. There isn't a ton of money up here, which makes me wonder where these people are getting theirs from to sink into their XCs. Only Volvos for sale within 40 miles of me in my price range are a couple of XCs from '99 and '01, oh and a VERY OVERPRICED, in my opinion (I don't care how well one thinks their value keeps), 1992 Volvo wagon (can't recall the model) with 220K miles on it for $4K.

          As for Saabs, I found 3 wagons, all 10+ years old, one needing a new engine. That's it. It's slim pickings in my neck of the Maine wilderness.

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            Mostly 'cus right around the time V70s became XC70s, Volvo was bought out by Ford at the turn of the century. The early XC 90s were well known for premature transmission failures, and the quality has been variable since in both models. My experience with the '99 XC 70, the last year before the buyout, has been good; it was the car I learned to drive on. The '04 has been good for now, but we'll see how long it lasts.

            That is insanely overpriced, yeah. Would like to see the repair history on that thing, sheesh.

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              My bad on the mileage on that '92: 176K. Still, it is $4K:
              http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/4584892481.html

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                Considering my '04 wasn't priced too far above that... these people are certifiably insane, yeah. Especially with those repairs, and some of the ones -not- listed that may pop up in its near future.