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Lesson Learned: Artist Beware by Silenceartwork

Now, normally I would not put a personal journal on Weasyl, where my possible clients can see. But I am beyond upset right now. I am shaking, I am anxious, I want to curl up in a ball and sob. I feel utterly useless, and just..its horrible.

A motorcycle group came to me with the hopes of having a logo done for them. I stated my process and how I work, and requested their budget since they mentioned in more than once. Their budget was a bit low for what I would charge for business work, but I went with it. I was excited. They seemed really nice.

As I stated to them, they would get the basic sketch, block forms, etc. They then would tell me if that was the idea they wanted or if they wanted something else. From there, I would go into the actual sketch, they would be given a copy. They would request changes. From there I went from that sketch to a concrete sketch. At this stage they requested so many changes that I restarted the entire project and went from part A all over again.

They were given the lineart, clean lineart might I add, and I told them to tell me what changes they wanted. At this point they requested minor things, the logos ears to be different shape, his gloves, etc. At no POINT did they mention his muscle structure or height being off. NO POINT. They gave me the okay to color.

I should state they were present in quite a few of the livestreams. At no point did they request changes like this. They seemed happy, said as much.

Since I was given the okay, I went on to coloring and after it was finished gave them requested two copies, one greyscale, one colored. They professed that they were happy but they had to talk to the rest of the group to see what they think. I said fine. They come back days later asking if I can make 'minor' changes, which turns out to be making the coyote riding a motorcyle to be BEEFIER, and TALLER. They also mentioned making the pants a different shade and the chrome shinier.

I messaged them back stating my TOS, and here I relinked it, says after they are given the finished copy, any huge changes requires an additional fee, but I was more than happy to make the changes to the pants and chrome for FREE.

I get a message back just today, stating this:
the $150 will put us over budget. I am sorry but this is not the product we were looking for, so we will look elsewhere. I appreciate your time and effort but again, just not the product we were looking for.---

Did I mention they at no point requested the changes until AFTER it was done? That they still OWE ME 100$ of the initial payment, because I DID FINISH IT, and the 50$ was the fee for the muscle structure and the height difference?

And they wont pay me that 100$ dollars.

Just..fuck.

Im going to see if I can maybe auction off the logo but I doubt anyone will want it and just, fuck my life. I had such low feelings about my art to begin with, this doesnt help.

Lesson Learned: Artist Beware

Silenceartwork

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    This is why people usually take the payment upfront, unfortunately I'm don't think there is much you can do since its not already involved with paypal. Its a real shame when people just take the piss out of hard work like that. :\

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      Payments were done via bank transfers, sadly. I cant even use paypal as an excuse in these regards, though the first bank transfer states 1 of 3 payments.

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        You should maybe try to keep things to paypal in the future perhaps? I've heard times where people have been scammed like this and then actually received their money by force since paypal has made the person pay, as long as you have proof of the work and stuff. Unfortunately banks don't tend to care that much [or at least don't do anything] about scams.

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    Dang... that's total bull#### >_>
    Sorry you had to go through something like that, and got copped out of so much D': ! Yeah, definitely try auctioning it~ Worth a shot. I don't have many watchers, but I'll pimp it as best I can for you.

    and try not to hold low feelings about your art D: I love your art!

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    Wow, I hate scammers/fraud, both artists and commissioners.

    That is just horrible, I cannot imagine how frustrated, angry, and hurt you are going through... I am sorry. I mean, I have been scammed out of $10....but not $100. All that time was wasted for you... Did you at least send the Works in Progress with a huge watermark saying UNFINISHED? A huge ugly watermark (still see through) may deter people like that so they do not get anything in the end unless they pay for the complete, un-watermarked version....

    Horrible people in this world, seriously, they are better off never born. Much time and effort would not be as wasted if anything.

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      I sadly only put huge watermarks on certain parts of the process. Which means yea, they have the huge file finished. It wont stop me from trying to auction it off though like I said above, I doubt anyone will be interested. Just..urgh. Im going to hugely water mark everything and be mean and blrgh.

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        That is pretty bad.... Like above, think you should try to keep it on paypal as long as you know...the art isn't porn or anything like that (heard artists get in trouble because of that). At least you have a fighting chance to get money back on paypal...

        And just to be safe you should put watermarks on everything just in-case.... The internet is not to be trusted including most of the people on it.

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          Im going to now. I cant help but feel horrible about my art now because of this though :/

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            That has nothing to do with your art, though, it's then trying to get more than they paid for.

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    I'm sorry that happened to you :< I think others have offered the only good suggestions I'd have been able to. But just know that it wasn't you at all! Your art is fantastic!