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This person gave insight as to why I feel "bad" about me being biologically female. by BlueNire

"I worked in the toy aisle at Wal-Mart for almost five years. I noticed a few trends. I would regularly see very little children - like, children below the age of 4 or so - looking for dolls that looked like them. Like most stores we generally had two kinds of dolls, white dolls and generic brown doll, and children of color would want the generic brown doll. I noticed when children of color reached a little older, like, 6 or so, they did not want the brown skinned dolls anymore. Some would vocally protest the brown skin dolls. They wanted the Good dolls.

This is what was happening - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkpUyB2xgTM[1]

If you watch the video you’ll see very young children being asked “which doll is nice, which doll is smart, which doll is good, which doll is kind?” and the children regularly pointing toward the white dolls, and calling the black dolls bad, selfish, ugly, cruel and dumb.

This is a product of socialization - it is not naturally occurring to hate the group that you’re a part of. It’s heartbreaking.

Humans learn by observation. It’s served us well, it’s a really great shorthand for picking up behavior that keeps us alive without having to learn exactly why, but it’s also flawed, because when we see bigotry day in and day out, it becomes part of our programming. We don’t question it.

What happens here is that we have all learned that the Good Group is white. We’ve learned this from the people around us, and we’ve learned it from the media.

If you are part of the Good Group, there’s no further need for contemplation, any more than you need to contemplate about food processing if you don’t have any allergies. Your needs are being met. The end.

Now the conflict of skin color is not identical to sexism but it is somewhat similar, and it has similar affects on females.

If you continually see, over and over and over again, men doing these great things, and women not even present for it, your stupid human programming is going to kick in and those are going to be the set rules. Good Group, Bad Group. Or - in my case, COOL Group, Bad Group. The need to see someone who looks like you doing the things you want to do is SO huge. It’s SO necessary to have positive self worth.

Did you ever watch Monsters University? Did you see the part where the two headed monster saw a three headed monster working on the scare floor? and the two headed monster realized there was a place for them, if they worked hard enough for it? Like - imagine never seeing yourself in media. Imagine only seeing you as a sidekick or a hot reward. Maybe you would be like me - I was like, “That’s NOT me. I’m more like [the White Guy]!”

Like, it was possible for me to identify with male characters, but in order to do that, every single day I enjoyed that media, I would have to set aside the female part of myself. I honestly didn’t realize how damaging it was until recently. Or how easy it had become for me to dislike it, to think less of being female. I wanted to be cool, and cool was completely synonymous with being male. This is what I was taught, so it’s what I learned, and I would do my best to be that, by golly by gosh.

In order to pretend to be someone I wanted to be - fun and kind and goofy - I had to pretend to be a guy. In order to be the kind of hero I wanted to be, I was Flash or I was Robin - Wonder Woman wasn’t fun, she wasn’t goofy. Batgirl was never really part of the adventures, Crystal Kane just sat up in Sky Vault and ran a computer, I wanted to be part of the adventure! I was Ace McCloud! I was Michelangelo, not boring April! Stupid, stick in the mud girls aren’t part of the adventures! Or if they are - imagine a child pretending to be one of those super sexual heroines? Just…? Why is that what they’re limited to?

I realize I’ve rambled a lot here, but this is about representation, and representation is important, and I hope if I haven’t lost you that I’ve managed to convince you that we really mean what we’re saying, it’s not just random complaining, people really do mean it and it really does impact people. If you hold video games in any regard you have to realize they’re impacting people as well.” -wobblywoobly on redditt

source- http://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/1zd1cs/female_version_of_the_wolf_of_wall_street/cft05e8

Now I have a better idea of why i often feel so wrong about being female and why I dislike being labeled as such.

This person gave insight as to why I feel "bad" about me being biologically female.

BlueNire

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    It's called internalized misogyny and it's unfortunately really common. You're definitely not alone on this one

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      Definitely. I myself went through a large part of my younger years saying "If I'm not the kind of girl a girl should be, then I'm not a girl I guess". I realized, slowly and it was super hard, to just be my own kind of person/woman - and that it was valid and not wrong just because it wasn't well represented. I think that may be why I love getting commissions for characters that aren't 'the norm' - size or expression.

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        Oh yes, my favorite commissions are also definitely of the minorities out there. More to the point, I replied to another comment below about how my internalized misogyny had me questioning whether or not I truly identified as male. It was a very hard question to answer, until I learned about feminism, and had my eyes opened to the injustices done to everyone, everywhere.

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    We very unfortunately live in a world that really does push and shove the message that anything, ANYTHING is better than being a woman, and this message gets shouted out everywhere be it by purpose or through internalized misogyny. Even in places you'd think were safe like queer spaces I see it everywhere and frequent. It's incredibly upsetting and troubling.

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    I've come to this conclusion as well in my journey of self-discovery. It's actually raised a lot more confidence issues than it has erased, because you see, I DO identify as male. And it is because of my own personal experiences with having to be the 'other parent' while my single mother raised my sister and I, and it must have something to do with this representation issue as well, but it always makes me worry that these feelings, this strong urge for me to 'right' my 'wrong' body is because of this internalized misogyny, directed into hating myself for my gender, or if it actually has anything to do with -me- and actual identity at all. I want to transition to escape my dysphoria, but I'd also hate to be feeling dysphoric because I grew up internalizing that I could not be "me" while also being female.

    As someone who wants to understand the truth of my own condition and as someone who would call themself a feminist, I am stuck at a stand-still. I can't in all honesty, say for certain what the cause of my dysphoria is, but this is so painstakingly valid it hurts, and for my own personal experience, I think there is enough evidence for it to go either way.

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      As someone from much the same standing I just wanted to say thank you for being brave enough to speak up and say as much

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        You're welcome ;u; I honestly didn't know if I should say anything, because it is so touchy for me. I'm afraid of being part of the problem and not the solution, honestly, and it's part of the reason I am so hesitant to try and transition. I'm kind of more at a point where Farore is when it comes to my own identity, and I'm trying to shake the internalized prejudices that I know I have, both as part of my own self-discovery and because I want to be able to help the causes that need it without having my own issues affecting it, but that's so much easier said than done.

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          Its touchy for a lot of people for obvious reasons. Calling into question where your identities and interests come from is an incredibly hard thing to do and it can be painful, but I think it's incredibly important. While I still identify as male, it helped me cope a lot with my upbringing, my past, my socialization, as well as with the body I was given at birth. It actually really helped me come to a point where I could value my life pre-transition, something I always severely struggled with largely due to issues with internalized misogyny and the mindset I had been raised with that always told me it was terrible to be a woman.

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      I struggled for a long time with whether I truly identified as male or if I had just internalized so much toxic garbage that I felt being female was no longer an option. I've since come to the conclusion that I do identify as male, but yes, I have a lot of internalized misogyny that has affected my behavior--both to others and to myself. I also consider myself a feminist but before that I was pretty sexist and am ashamed to admit that, though I have since changed my behavior and thinking.

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        i am/was the same way. Lots of internalized misogyny, grossness that i spewed without thought until i got into feminism and found out that it's not 'feminazis and female supremacists' but people working for equality and fair representation. Once i took the red pill, i realized how wrong i'd been - how wrong nearly everything and everyone was. i discovered the nonbinary community as well, and realized that it's not that i hate being feminine - because i wasn't a trans* man, so i must just hate being A Girl - but that i want to own my femininity AND my masculinity, and have both be MINE to express, not be shoved on me by a society that dictates What A Woman Should Be. i now identify as transmasculine but agender - i suspect partially because of the rigid expectations placed on both men and women, i cannot identify as either.

        At this point i could ramble for pages about feminist theory, but i'll just say - internalized misogyny is a hell of a drug, and important to spot and try to counteract in oneself.

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    This is a great analysis of racism and how it is tied to class not biology.
    Great work ^^

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    Hmmm... I guess that kinda makes sense. That's probably why I hold a high regard for females, simply because I had three sisters and my mother and a father who was only there part-time.

    I always played female characters in games because (until recently) I thought it was just cooler to be a girl who beat people up/solved the mystery/became a famous hero(ine).

    A part of me still feels that being female is better, leading me to some gender identity issues... though, because my sisters always tried to exclude me from things, I never felt like I was truly one of them. So instead, I just try to reduce my male qualities as much as possible (not that I was ever really a cisgender male) and live my life how I feel like living it.

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    Just wanted to say to people commenting here as a whole - saying 'female' is kind of misleading, as that is generally used to indicate someone who was FAAB (female assigned at birth) rather than encompassing all women. (It also comes off a bit overly clinical, as if you're talking about an animal instead of a human.) Transfeminine people have to deal with these same issues, if not worse because they get transmisogyny on top of the regular misogyny. Society is cruel towards all women, not just FAAB folks. Some people do argue that female can indicate gender as well as sex, so it's not a perfect science, but generally it's better to say 'women and girls' when you mean feminine assigned (by doctors, parents, etc or by themselves) people.

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      Er, rather to say, feminine identified people. There are plenty of feminine assigned people who do not identify as women or girls, my bad. (i'm one of them.)

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    Yeah, internalized racism and misogyny is so damaging. That reminds of me of this great talk by Chimamanda Adichie: http://www.ted.com/talks/chimamanda_adichie_the_danger_of_a_single_story.html

    Also makes me think about the lack of representation/positive representation of trans people in the media. :C
    In particular transfags like myself.

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    That was an interesting read and really eye-opening. My immediate family is very masculine-orientated and only recently have I started to notice it - the men have to be manly and the women have to be smart and not-very-feminine. My bf gets teased because he's sensitive, likes to draw, and doesn't do manly-man things like my dad does, and my sister is the girly one who likes to be pretty and nice which..is also things my dad finds annoying (he blames it on her bf - says he's making her take the "back seat" in the relationship or something). My mom is on the "butch" side in that she doesn't wear dresses or makeup and has her hair short, which she prefers, but my dad likes that. And me? I guess he sees me as the same because he's made terrible comments about "cross-dressers" and transgender people to my face many times (I doubt I'll ever tell him).

    But I have the same fears as Sforzando does. Am I identifying as male because of internalized misogyny and the way my dad raised me? I have no idea but reading the other comments here is a bit comforting in that respect.

    This is trippy stuff.

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    I actually had the opposite problem. My mother has always been my greatest hero. She was one of the first female EMTs in Arizona. She was the Health and Safety Director of the American Red Cross and made the chapter that she was in charge of one of the best chapters in the south. Everything she does, she does to the extreme degree and through it all, she always reminded me that "It doesn't matter what kind of woman you are, you're still a woman." I was raised with that my whole life. It's okay to like what you like, it's okay to do the things you do.

    But I'm not. I'm not a woman. So there I sat, at a young age, absolutely convinced that I was not a woman, and yet absolutely terrified of telling the hero in my life that I wasn't after all she's done...it sucked. It still does. But there it is. I am who I am. Which is not a woman.

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    THIS THIS THIS a MILLION times THIS

    Spot on
    hit the nail on the head
    Better than I could ever say it.

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      That comment apparently needed to be said twice I am so eager to express my agreement

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    THIS THIS THIS a MILLION times THIS

    Spot on
    hit the nail on the head
    Better than I could ever say it.

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    This sums up the problem better than just about anything I've ever seen.

    I remember buying Pirates of Dark Water action figures when I was a kid (dating myself there, geez). They made a figure of all the major characters. Ren, Niddler, Ioz, even Bloth and half of his fugly pirate crew. But they did NOT make an action figure of Tula, even though she was right on the box art, right on the logo. She was the only real female character in the show (itself highly problematic), one of the core heroes, and one of the most powerful characters on the show, but she didn't get to be a toy because she was female, I guess. I remember being REALLY irritated by that as a kid. My irritation has not decreased with age.

    I'm glad that people are calling this bullshit out more often now. I hope that it's a sign that things are changing.

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    I wish I was in good health enough to comment on how wonderful this journal is, all I can say is thank yo for speaking up. I have recently just rolled into something similar with this myself and it feels amazing to admit it. Thank you.

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      <3 !! MY heart goes out to you!