you're not exactly setting a great exemple if you're gonna start posting on fa again if you get unbanned, y'know

I'm sticking with Weasyl. I also don't think FA's problems are over, even if some people are creeping back to it.

I'm also going to post exclusively to Weasyl. Even though there's not as much traffic, it's still a trillion times better than FA.

Judging from what I've seen, people go back because they need the commissions and they get more traffic over there. It was to be expected. But the high point in this site is, in my opinion, the community. Maybe people don't get a million views/favs/comments in their art, but what you do get is more "civilized" and coherent.
I never "left" FA, but it has become a secondary site for me, I like it here because of the nice community, that's something FA doesn't really have.
Don't fear voicing your opinion, just make sure you don't attack people by stating it :)

Personally, I also like the layout of Weasyl and the community a lot more in general, but I also don't have a huge following on FA or need it for commission traffic or anything like that. A couple people have jumped all over me for mentioning that I prefer Weasyl even though I had one way before the 'stuff' over on FA happened.

I also found you through Weasyl and I had no idea you were banned or anything like that, but it sounds like you're working through it, so that's great news! C: I'm definitely sticking to Weasyl for posting my own art and plan to commission people through here when I can!

The administration alone is reason to stay on Weasyl.

While I do not support at all FA's shenanigans/drama, I can't say I can leave it - there's much more activity on there and therefore higher chance of getting commissioners. But yeah, Weasyl has got a better design and it's much more functional, even for a beta site. Hopefully one day it will be more used than FA. :)

I'm still posting more here. Thinking about having only personal arts here.
Commissions an junk I'll post over there after a while.

I just hop the boat to posts my arts around many sites but This will always my first choice to posts personal blogs and other things without Flaming drama on~ Sound so nice place to stay without feel uneasy

In my opinion, FA is a bad site because of its staff. I don't think it'll ever get the overhaul it needs unless it gets an administrative overhaul first. Admins on any site will play favorites pretty much, that's a given anywhere you go online, but on FA it's far more blatant than it is on most of the rest of the Internet. Plus FA's admins love to flex their muscles and ban people over the tiniest of offenses.

Plus they're hypocritical in their standards. There is art posted by popular artists on FA that is labeled as "cub" on other sites, that isn't ever taken down despite the fact that it is mature/adult-rated... meanwhile, the admins seem hellbent on taking out artists who are known for that kind of art but who DON'T post it on FA. Some art has been removed as 'cub' because it was chibi... but again, artists who are popular with the administrative staff didn't seem to have any problems if they uploaded it. So the standards of FA staff seem to greatly differ from the standards of the FA AUP.

As far as the users, they're just like users on any other furry site or any other site in general. If it weren't for the shitty attitudes of FA's staff, I'd probably go back, but they'd have to completely remove most of the staff they have now and someone other than Dragoneer would have to be the site owner before the staff's attitudes ever changed for the better.

That said, I don't hold other people's decisions to post there against them. I see a lot of people basically treating the recent exodus to Weasyl like some kind of a religion, like in order to be a "good person" you must cleanse yourself of FurAffinity forever and ever and deny yourself the chance to broaden your audience because of how EVIL FurAffinity is, mwahahahahahaaaaaa! That kind of attitude is just as bad as FA staff's bad attitude about pretty much everything, and iI have about as much patience for that as I do for the corrupt staff on FurAffinity.

So, cross-post if you want. If you can get back onto FA and broaden your audience, then good.

The reason people are gravitating back to FA is primarily because of the Commissioner to Artist ratio here is so low. There are more artists here than commissioners.

Weasyl is now my primary site. I'm still on FA but just to follow a few stragglers.

I left FA completely, I only announce commission stuff and stream posts there. I like it here better here, better staff, nicer environment. Plus weasyl has everything we have been wanting on FA since FA started. A group of chimpanzee's can do a better job modding a site than the FA staff imo =/

Tbh I kinda disagree, FA is a terrible website, it's only appeal is as a hubworld, and thats only because people are sheep and all gravitate towards where everybody else is and become set in their ways, even if that place is a gigantic shithole.

I adore the hell out of Weasyl.
I just love the fact we have folders and the admins seems super nice here! Not a lot of bullshit drama as far as I have seen (even though I tend to stay in my own lil corner and out of the way lol)
FA, as much as I will admit has some serious problems all around,but is my way of getting commissioners.
Im just now getting around to using Weasyl and will stay to post more of my own personal works and use FA as a commission site. Hope things work out for you, madame!

Personally, I don't think you should post on FA anymore. I mean, they've burned you pretty bad and unfairly so. They're not above doing it again either. I think with your level of popularity, people would more than likely move to (or at least be more active) on Weasyl for you. Through that, they would experience the website and see for themselves how nice it is. :)

Weasyl in beta makes FA look like an early alpha.

I rather stay here though I will keep my account on FA. Just not active in seeking out commissions/YCH/adopts. I really want to keep my spending here but have to wait till we move into our house.

I don't do art as a business so this really affects what I do. In the interest of my career and my own personal well being I CANNOT be associated with a site that has a dog molester on staff and is willing to look the other way. I already don't even mention that I have anything to do with the furry world because there is already an association with bestiality. To be associated with a site that is in a sense condoning it by being willing to look the other way? I have worked too long and hard on my education and career to let it all crumble over that one thing. The thing with a suspected rapist was just icing on that horrible cake.

I disabled my userpage over there and I find myself using the site less and less (I used to log in everyday to just look at pics and comment). Especially since a lot of artists that I already followed on FA have chosen to cross post here. If you need to go back to FA for business, I won't ever hold it against you or any artist because I know that it is a part of your trade.

Personally (and you can take or leave this), I wouldn't have anymore to do with FA if I were you. I think despite what you have written here about your own behavior that you were treated with extreme bias and I think that you take a lot of shit from people. There does come a point where enough is enough and you can't just "Don't feed the trolls" (which is silencing in itself). You bring traffic to that site and your fee should be treating you fairly not "keeping you on your toes".

Yeah-- Speaking your opinion too much can lead to people trying to push your buttons as often as they can' it also leads to a lot of unnecessary heartache. I'm glad your reconsidering how to react to people. [:

FA is run down in just about every way, I don't find it practical to stay on for any other reason other than for commissions. Which is why I'm glad most people are now tending to only using as a revenue for cash. Until FA picks up their game I don't feel like directing all of my attention to FA anymore...It's really not deserving of it-- and either-way it's not good to store all your eggs in one basket anyway (especially when it's FA) and I'm glad that if this drama proved anything at all it's that FA is /NOT/ the only furry website out there and people should not feel bound to it.

And really-- that's all that matters to me in the end. lol

"Anyhow, I've come to realize last month that my past behavior can often seem very childish, especially when I get into a disagreement with furries or bronies. I'm trying my best to improve my own self-behavior, and be more responsible with my actions."

I have to say I admire that you realize this and that you are working to improve yourself.

"It's just that I've been hassled for so long all of these years, that I've gained a defensive disposition. Being backstabbed by people that I respected didn't help my trust issues at all. That's why I seem a little reluctant on making new friends. It's nothing against new folks, I've just been fucked over so many times, that I'm a bit wary."

It saddens me to hear this and it is most unfortunate that it happens, I hope one day you can find at least one person to trust in. I can't really understand what you are going through because, needless to say, I am not you. I have felt betrayal before. I have only dealt with it once though, I can only imagine how it would effect someone if it happened multiple times. In this case, I simply will not trust that person again, it doesn't effect how I see other people. When I look back, I feel like I should have seen it coming. There is quite a bit in this instance that I regret doing, but that is life. It has come and gone, all I can do is learn from it. I hope you can learn to trust again and that person is worth it.

"I know that I can be pretty outspoken about my opinion. But I'm just expressing how I feel, and sometimes I don't use tact, which I very much need to work on."

I feel like I understand this. I can hold myself back fairly well online, but I don't think I manage to all the time. I also don't feel like I talk enough to really be able to say I am good at holding back. I feel like I do pretty good at letting the bad things slide off my back. After all, why is it important that this person is being mean to me? Why should I care if this person is acting like a dick? If I don't like it, I simply go somewhere else, I can block them, or I can report them.

I hope you grow the way you hope to, embrace and improve yourself and become a better person all around. We could all use some improvement.

Speaking from a commissioner's point of view. I actually found weasyl to be easier to get into, to navigate, and it makes following and keeping up to date with my favorite artists easy as a few clicks. I never really could get comfortable with FA and when Miss Kayla introduced this site I almost instantly felt comfortable with it.

I find Weasyl's interface spammy, cumbersome, overly flashy, and on the verge of being pretentious. However, that said, it still beats FA- Not in elegance, but in the fact that it meets the basics. It works, it's competently designed, and it's not run by a bunch of pants-on-head retards.

I like FA, it so far is my main comissioning site. And browsing for art. Also that i am more used to it, and it's not trying anything fancy pancy as some other sites. clean and simple.

But i raise a glass for your opinion.
also i am glad for once here on Weasyl to see a journal about FA that is not pissy, crybaby or dramaquering.
thank you.

They are actually in the midst of planning an entire site-wide overhaul/rewrite, but with that, drama about something else entirely came up.
Seems like the FA userbase is just going further downhill :|

Fuck FA.

Personally, I'm on edge with keeping my account on FA or deactivating it. A lot of artist still only post commissions exclusive to FA so it's hard to make the transition. Plus, I still have pending business with other artists. I think I might start requesting that anything that I commission not be posted on FA but posting on other sites such as Weasyl or Tumblr will be allowed. This is the only method I can think of to boycott FA respectfully, Thoughts?

after following you through what seemed like every back channel of the internet, it seemed (to me at least) like you couldn't find a break until weasyl, this is a great site and I find myself using it more and more frequently, and even though i still post on FA I agree it does seem in need of a complete overhaul both inside and out, stagnation of media has crushed a great many websites, whatever the case however, I'm glad I can find your art here...

I have noticed you are a bit reserved with some people and yet more open minded toward others.

But clientèle like yours I really can not blame for you it. Some people just want to be your friend until they get free art. "Your my friend, draw me something"

It just doesnt work like that.

When I won the chance to get a stream freebie from you I was so excited because Ive been following and idolizing your work for sometime, back when you were mel.

The sketches you had up before mine looked wonderful and you put your heart into them. But then mine came up and it looked like you were bored with the char. You drew a silly but very humorous doodle x3 still love it. Lol.

I was still curious why you did that. But it was a free sketch, I had no right to question.

I also dont want you to think you have to be reserved with me. I dont know you. Itd be cool to learn more and one day I cant wait to get a good commission the correct way.

But with the experiences you have had with other people. Again. I certainly can not blame the way you try to cover your ass from possible negative decisions.

Just keep trucking kayla. Screw FA if they can't stop being ignorant. you're true friends will be following you around and keeping your spirits high.

Personally, I post everywhere and offer commissions everywhere, but 90% of my business comes from FA. I like to keep my business options open and my art available to my viewers/followers wherever they are. To stay on one site is... Not the best idea in my opinion. If that site disappears, then what will you do? Nothing, cause you'll be fucked. I'm not taking that risk.

I think the real problem of all this sites are the people but you have rigth: here the admins and dev are very opened in the users opinions adn try to make the better to respond all the questions and problems (at least I do a report of a bug and they answer me in the same day).
Sadly I want to say more but I'm pretty bad in gramma and I don't know if you know something of spanish.

You are rigth taking this posture.. at least is your job, your drawns, your story. the people can f*** himselfs if don't like and, how you say in a last journals, the can go when she wants. You don't have him with chains or not?

I hope FA administration can bury the axe and lift your ban. Seems like there are unreasonable reactions on both sides, and everyone just needs to chill out a little so you can operate your business-related needs.

Yeah upon looking into it more, I've been finding the features of Weasyl (especially the code of conduct for mods and admins) to be worth it. I don't plan on leaving FA and I have absolutely no desire to get involved with the drama that was happening a couple of weeks ago because this sort of things always happens at least once a year. It's just the nature of the beast.

That reflection and introspection makes you all the more stronger, I think. Sometimes the greatest steps forward are made by just standing still for a second, and looking at who you are, and what you've done in the past.

Anyway, yanno I'm glad you're here.

Give it time. People like being on a site that's more active, and since the whole backlash with Zaush being part of the FA team, more shit will probably upset people enough to migrate here. shrugs

I definitely understand where you're coming from, as far as being wary of who to trust, and making new friends. Given the kind of people I've come to realize make up a huge majority of this fandom, I've had to become EXTREMELY careful about who I befriend, and take it VERY slow and careful when I do. Too many snakes in the grass. =/

you have every right to express your opinion however you deem fit. just don't expect the masses to accept your approach. everyone is too afraid of hurting peoples "feelings" or of being hurt in todays societies.

The entire Zaush rape thing and him working on the site has left a bitter taste in my mouth, not to mention the amount of drama or controversy that occasionally surrounds Dragoneer and his lackeys doesn't help at all. Yak hardly does anything, so why the hell is he even on the team? What about Tsawolf? Haven't heard him doing anything remotely useful either.

I've been burned enough that I won't even go back there.

I will admit, I was a bit reluctant to switch over to Weasyl since I have everything set up over on FA. Just in the last two hours running around Weasyl, uploading art, browsing users and work....it's so fast and less clunky. I don't like that everything has a thumbnail and I still don't know where everything is but I'd like to give this site a try. I've seen the admins over at FA acting like the site is their personal playground and sometimes refusing to take responsibility for rather biased actions...that is not a way to run a website. I suspect FA is only as popular as it is because it's one of the largest and there are not that many other options

I do have to agree with you on this.

While FA isn't really great, it's not terrible; it's mostly the staff. I do believe the site needs an overhaul completely and i am really hoping this new project does come to light. I've only been on the site for a few months and i've already met some great people there; i'm not leaving because of an issue that 1. Isn't my business and 2. Is too complex for me to really understand (i even wrote a journal on this).

While i do feel sorry you got banned, i hope they lift it.