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Tag your stuff properly!! by Xantouke
As much as I'm okay with the furry fandom, I'm slightly disappointed that they're the ones taking over the site already. I know that Weasyl was intended for a broader setting of art, but the huge influx of furries is worrying. I also noticed a lot of the users aren't tagging their submissions properly. Out of curiosity, after seeing the front page just covered in...furry art. I decided to filter the tags 'furry' and 'anthro'. The result is kind of disappointing, since after filtering, all you still see is mostly furry art. Tag your shit, people! It's a good thing you can go through and modify tags, but other users shouldn't have to tag your art properly for you. If this is going to be a multi-user-base site, you are all going to have to at least comply to the easy stuff. Make your tags comprehensive, please!
I really do hope the user bases balances out between furries and normal artists. Since I enjoy both worlds, and have even put effort into uploading my non-furry artwork.
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I can understand the need for some kind of regulation involving classifying certain pics as furry or non-furry art; after all, Weasyl was created to respect all kinds of art. Still, "furry" can be a bit of a broad term at times. Some thought needs to be put into this dilemma so that Weasyl will not be "segregated", so to speak, between normal and furry artists, but would still have some regulation for those who do not wish to see certain types of work. I'm sure adding "furry" tags won't be unanimously put into use, so the best bet would be to suggest the site staff for a possible site-wide resolution.
After all, Weasyl is still in beta, and so, who knows, eventually there's probably going to be way more features pertaining to how to classify certain art.
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Personally, my thought process is as such: 'furry' pertains to what is normally drawn within the furry fandom (which often times includes porn, sadly) and that the term 'anthro' pertains to more casual furry art. For example, 'anthro', to me, would be along the lines of cartoon characters such as Mickey Mouse, Pooh Bear, TMNT, you get the idea, which are obviously furry type characters, but are intended for a more general audience. Even so, if people would tag their works properly and put said works in the proper rating group (General, Mature, Adult) you can specify how you want your filtered tags to be filtered. Such as showing furry art that's rated G, but everything M and up would be filtered out.
The filtering system is pretty well-done, but people just need to actually comply to tagging rules for it to actually work.
Of course there are kinks that the site needs to work out, but this is the best time to bring up these kinds of issues _because_ it's still in beta.
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Well, that's just the point. It's impossible to expect everyone on the site to tag their art as "furry" or the like. It's just not going to happen, unless the admins decide to spontaneously become nazis and make not doing so a bannable offense (which is incredibly unnecessary and unlikely, since Fiz has already taken a more "users can do what they want" stance on the issue). Some others may even object to or be uncomfortable with tagging their stuff like that. In either case, I see two ultimate scenarios:
The world stops for people who cannot tolerate furries/anthros/whatever they're calling them these days.
People learn to stop fussing over this trivial shit and coexist.
Weasyl was created for everyone, so there shouldn't be many qualms about the balance between furries and normal artists. That said, I do acknowledge there being much more furry art than non-furry art here at Weasyl, but the interesting thing about Weasyl is that it's one of the first sites to not take an explicit stand on either one of those affinities, so nothing can accurately be expected for the future of its userbase. If I could wager a guess, I'd say, in the long run, more normal artists will join Weasyl in time and there will be a more even balance, especially after Weasyl goes public. Note that I don't have any particular favor in the matter -- normal art can be just as reputable as furry art, and vice versa.
Just my two cents!
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Well, my hopes are for coexistence and more normal artists! @@
I really only wanted to point out that people aren't tagging their works and it devolved into ...whatever this even is now. -rolls--
Sorry. I just hear a lot of complaining these days, and people are starting to mass-debate over things like this. Drama is not what I came to Weasyl for.
But, like I said, it's going to be incredibly difficult/impossible to get absolutely everyone to start tagging. That's simply the gist of it.
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I have to agree here. I'm actually not uploading any of my furry art because I don't want to add to the ridiculous amount of furry art already clogging up the front page. :x It makes me a bit sad. A lot of people also think this is a furry website, so I guess they just don't know.
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It's probably because a large part of the staff are furries and the site was primarily advertised at furry conventions (to my knowledge). I'm aware that there is a Tumblr account for the site as well, but I'm sure that it's, again, primarily followed by furries. The site's advertising really needs to somehow push the message that this is an site for all art and be advertised outside of furry-based groups. Even if it's step-by-step.
(But the site name and mascot probably make it harder to see the site as more than a replacement for FA...)
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A lot of the staff has been discussing this for a fairly long time now. We would like to get people to tag their work anthro if it applies, however we're going over what would be the best way to get this message accross.
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Maybe set-up a site-wide notice that tells people to tag their submissions properly, with examples and explanations? I'm not sure. Like, telling them to start with general tagging. What is it, what are the general themes of the piece, etc. and then going down to more specific tags like character names. If you don't lay down specific, lets say, 'laws' as to how the tagging system is supposed to be used, then people will do what they want. If anything, maybe put consequences on the discussion table for when users don't comply.
But hey, I'm sure the staff will figure something out. I can only wish you guys good luck.
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As far as I'm aware, this site was created, served and bought into by furries who're fed up with FA. We're the early first adopters, so obviously you're gonna see a lot of furry art while they sort through the bugs..
Chill. The rest will come in time.
Hurrah for tagging things properly though.
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This is true. I also believe it was for the most part advertised among furries. This is not the issue, though. The intent for this journal was to bring up the issue of properly tagging. I guess I veered off and took a jab at furries, as well, which really wasn't the intent, but because it's primarily that fandom that seems to not be tagging properly, it fell into place there.
Either way, I am chill. ;w; Just worried about how it _will_ turn out in time.
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At least we're still in beta, so hopefully they get this sorted soon.
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I think I understand where Xantoukue is coming from.. I do not consider myself 'furry' but a fantasy artist, which often draws furs to me because I really enjoy the fantasy of non-human characters. That said.. the blatant.. porn is obsessive among the fur areas and I think that is the problem. If it wasn't just so.. well messy, it might be more inviting to other types of artists out there. There's this stigma that furs IRL are raving sex fiends and that's not true. I've met a decent number who are actually just normal everyday people who have fun with things that can't be true in real world. Art for me, is about the fantasy and creativity of the human mind and soul combined.
The thing I noticed is the 'tagging' and rating system here are VASTLY different from many sites, including Epilogue to which I used to be a member of yearrrrsss ago... Just standing around naked to show a character design is classed as adult, makes no sense to me. I feel it's wrong to be ashamed of genitalia, it's when it moves to suggestive or explicitness that it's classed as adult, but the way things are now people just freak out even seeing anything in it's natural state.
For me, it's going to take some getting used to. I don't want a boob or something to be peeking and have to mark it as adult because the character may be wearing a tattered shirt in a combat scene. People would be 'why is this rated this way?..' Also, Mature in any sense of the meaning is classed as suggestive, sexual and other explicit themes that are not X rated. Even warcraft is rated M for Mature which is 16+ last I checked because of it's often times adult theme parodies and such.
I'm tottttaaallly off topic and I'm sorry! I understand where Xan's coming from, I don't necessarily agree with some things, but I also see -why- they have such restrictions. They want MORE people to come and look and enjoy art for what it was created for (not fapping material!) and you can't rightfully do that if people run scared because of some stigma.
I do not want explicit material in my gallery here and I am unhappy that tasteful nudity is classified as such >>;
Hope i didn't derail anything, but real good discussion is going on here about the tagging and it just reminded me of this, I'm curious to know what other artists feel about that general consensus.
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I would like to agree with everything in this. I will admit I am a furry, and yes, I love the furry art, but the porn aspect is actually quite ridiculous. I also love the fact of how you mention the classification. There should definitely be a difference between artist nudes, and blatant sex.
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This is exactly what bothers me about this site. It really needs a broader audience because quite frankly almost none of my art is furry-related, therefore it really doesn't get any attention at all as opposed to say, fursuit photographers.