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About You and About Me by Ransom
You people are amazing! What I thought to be just a bit of rage that would get overlooked has exploded in popularity, with about 1400 notes on Tumblr as I write this. Additionally, the number of people I have following me here on Weasyl has not merely doubled, nor tripled, but septupled since I uploaded my scathing criticisms of Fur Affinity and the clods who run it. I feel so repetitive lately, but I can't stress enough how much I appreciate the kindness you've all shown to me, and how happy it makes me to know there are so many stand-up people here who won't resort to apathy or approval of the disgusting conduct that's been occurring in our community. It took hours and hours, but I tried to reply to almost every comment I got, none of which were negative here on Weasyl, and thank every follower too.
If you want to see more, I've continued to write about the nonsense of FA and its staff in my Tumblr, under the "Fur Affinity" tag (which, sadly, is never without the "rape" tag accompanying it).
I was going to write a bit about myself here, to let all of you new followers know there's more to me than just being a really pissed-off cat-dude on the internet, haha. Coincidentally enough, there's a meme going around with this theme; however, I don't want to fill out a long questionaire — some of you are probably tired of reading dozens of them by now. Instead, I added a few short paragraphs to my profile on my main page. Take a look if you'd like to know a little more about me! There's not a lot to it, so if you're curious about anything else, please go ahead and ask here!
Lastly, to everyone, thanks again for following me. Many of you have admitted to doing it out of principle or admiration, which is extremely flattering; I'll do my best to keep you around with fun and interesting artwork!
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I followed Darkomi for years on FA; I'm glad you're both here! By all means, keep commenting; I do my best to reply to almost everything I get.
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WELL I'll do my best |P to at least make comments worthwhile, cause with that massive follower count you're going to have a lot to speak to over time I'm sure
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heeeeeey cindy is a good friend ^^
Nice to see she influences positively :3-
We'll, she's my fiancee, I'm inclined to pay attention when she vouches for someone~
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lol i know ^^
and she praises YOU up n down all the time. ive respected you since i became friends w/ her all those years ago and you n i barely even know eachother. isnt that silly? XD
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Whenever people have asked me what's going on, it's been your tumblr post I've been pointing them to. You've done a good job, man. You're aces in my book!
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Much-appreciated, dude. The more people who voice disapproval over what's going on, the better.
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You've done many and what some could consider god's work. And I applaud you for that.
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Hey, I'm not letting that guy steal my credit!
But seriously, it was a team effort. I wouldn't have known about any of this if it weren't for other users documenting the injustices. Furthermore, I just compiled what I had on hand and sent it out there, and hundreds (possibly thousands) of other people continued to spread it. It's the second person who starts a trend; the first person is just an outlier.
So, thanks to you and everyone else who has spoken up.
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Heheh, well spoken.
At any rate, you and everyone involved did good.
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lol I will always support the do-gooders. those who venture to speak out against oppressive tendencies and websites who shush those who try to make a difference. its part of my philosophy, and as we talked about, i have a personal vendetta against the topic as is, so naturally Im gonna have your back budd.
also i owe you an appology. I fear I may have started the "know me meme" this time around..... rubs back of neck akwardly
just felt like sharing after all this stuff happened, and it sorta snowballed. XDbut anyhoo, atleast i can say it all goes back to my old saying.
"out of all things bad, comes something good"
and look at the amazing good that comes from this! kinda restores your faith in furmanity doesnt it? XD-
As I've learned, you never know when something you make is just going to explode in popularity, haha.
While there are so many vile people on FA right now, a lot of goodness is displayed by the people here and Tumblr. I take solace in knowing there are, at least, hundreds upon hundreds of others who won't put up with any of it.
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and counting :)
theres a HUGE following surging away from FA as we speak still. youve done good bud, and youll forever be known for what you did with humble intentions turning such large fruit. pays to have yer facts, dont it ^^point is, youve done good, and for that, you got yourself the FA ninja. (now the Weasyl ninja i spose) point is I have yer back. something I give with purpose to those who show they need and earned it. (not to be too full of myself, merely making a valued point) i may not have much, but what support i have, you have it too :)
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I have a long history with FA, I got banned as a favor to "Silverautomatic" Dragoneers current room mate. The guy tried policing the fandom and I told him off. He harassed me and several others who appeared on his "Banned from Furry" list which he swore up and down was a joke. He had a forum called "Watch Your Step" that had a locked section that required members to have 30 days and be approved where he could talk in secret about targets with his cohorts. Someone on the inside had enough of his shit and leaked all the threads onto a web site called lulz.net. The thread about me was over 2000 pages long. One of his members talked about sending me a bomb in the mail. Not too long after this occurred Dragoneer accused me of leaving death threats on his cell phone.
I support you to the fullest because of this bs. Fuck Dragoneer hes a piece of shit.-
Two-thousand pages? Holy moly, you must have pissed them off something fierce. Well done.
Either way, fuck those sad sacks of shit. They're as awful as they are blunderous, to the point where they almost seem like cartoon characters.
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Oh and Dragoneer was a member of Watch Your Step.
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The only thing that makes me leery about the whole situation is that weasyl is still in it's beta phase, and I'm worried about stressloads on their servers and if they can handle all this FA traffic.
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I watch the official Tumblr. They seem optimistic about all of the traffic!
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I think ten thousand users in a handful of days speaks pretty strongly about how people feel about the handling of this entire debacle. No matter what actually 'happened,' the facts which should be immediately obvious to any user is that the staff have perpetrated a silence campaign on a ridiculous scale. "You can't say mean things about the staff, it's against the Code of Conduct!" Is it? Well, maybe don't hire skeezbags to code your site. Fuck having that ass with access to my notes and any other private information.
Oh, and to anybody whose defence of that is 'Well, you shouldn't put personal information on FA!' I don't, because I'm lucky enough not to have to share business contact information, including Paypal details, through that site. If you think FA's current trend of total lack of accountability can be solved simply by glossing over a catastrophic privacy issue just by not using notes? You're part of the problem. The apologists and mansplaining over there is just... ugh. UGH. I wash my hands of it.
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That's a very good point! More than ten-thousand new registrations on the weekend speaks volumes to the disapproval of the state of affairs on FA.
I'd be surprised if there were many without personal info on FA, whether it's PayPal info or private messages.
Either way, the people in charge are monstrous, and I want them holding no power over me or representing me in any way whatsoever.
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That last point is what I think stands out the most for me, over and over, and I can't understand why people seem determined not to see that. Oh, well. More space in the ball pit for the rest of us!
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Finally... The first time I've been able to read, what I'd consider a more complete explanation to what actually happened. I've only been in and around the community for 3 years. I'd consider myself VERY new. I do my best to duck the drama and just keep on going... I was content to just maintain both my account here and on FA.. though now I'm strongly reconsidering keeping FA up at all..
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I'm glad I could shed some light on the situation. I'd really recommend ditching FA altogether. I'm sure you can agree it's not a good idea to be associated with people like the criminal staff and their ignorant supporters. Plus, many talented artists and good people have migrated to Weasyl — over ten-thousand new registrations in one day — so you're not going to be without good company or entertainment.
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Well. I'm not concerned at ALL about watchers or followers.. I have kinda just quit doing commissions and stuff for the time being. I been enjoying just sharing my personal stuff lately quite a bit... so leaving FA wouldn't kill me at all. I just got a few people who are dug in and don't want to budge because they been so long (and somehow avoided majority of the drama over the years.)
My problem is.. if someone is hired as a known predator, the site admin best lawyer up should something happen to one of their clients.. OR finding out someone on your team is doing such a thing.. would be grounds for IMMEDIATE dismissal. Period... So what is it? A predator's haven?.... That to me just sends a really.. big message to other predators saying 'come here, it's safe! it's like shooting fish in a barrel!'
Those who chose to stay being called rape apologists though, is just pathetic. Not all of them know, or even WANT to know... and with how much trouble FA's been in apparently over the past 10?.. years?.. I can't say I'd necessarily blame them for wanting to remain ignorant. IT sucks.. it needs to be talked about and they'll figure it out sooner or later I'm sure. :)
I just wish there was a way to nuke accounts on the user's end over there.. I don't even think they can do it from an admin point of control.. and I've been subject to their censorship bigotry as well in the past. They came down on me for being vague and venting in my own personal journal.. and deleted mine and gave me warnings and stuff, then the person who was the source of upset for me?.. DID the same thing?... They let them keep their's up. I demanded fair treatment. If you judge one, you judge both and proper action for both parties should be done. They do have a lot of loose lips between admins there as well. I can't tell you the amount of play.. the regular user base has by nudging admins to do their dirty work against their 'enemies'...
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Guess I should clarify what I mean by people claiming those who stay on FA are rape apologists.. What I mean to say is... I've known a few people who've been sent notes, death threats and other really aggressive stuff which is NO BETTER.. then what that guy did... for remaining on FA. Not saying everyone who left did, I'm just saying people shouldn't EVER send notes or comments like that. People will figure it out in the end. :)
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In a way I'm glad this mass exodus happened seeing as I was banned long before any of this came around. Now I can catch up with my favourite artists that I used to watch and once again enjoy being part of the community - hopefully this time without shitty administrators and the awful half of the community that plagued FA.
Looking forward to your future work! :3
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Well this is pretty convenient for you! Though I'm curious: What'd they ban you for? Obviously serious crimes are out of the question, since that probably would have landed you a job on FA.
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I didn't take some fatfur seriously when he threatened me with physical violence and I generally mocked everything that he said. Apparently that was the straw that broke the camel's back as I had a "history" of misdemeanours on FA, but when I asked for evidence, I was ignored by the administration team. I sent another email approximately a week later and that has since been ignored.
It's been almost a year and a half now and I have yet to hear from them. I hope the internet ate my 2 emails that I sent them because now I don't want to even associate myself with that filth.
You want to know the best part about this all? The fatfur didn't even get a slap on the wrist. I was literally told that I would die by his hands, yet I'm the one who gets a nice big permasuspension. You heard that right. I take the literal piss out of someone's death threats and yet I don't even get the courtesy of being simply banned. I'm just suspended for over 9,000 years. Fatfur and his deaththreats walks free.
I guess he sucked an admin's dick pretty good.Seeing as it's an FA ban however, nothing of value was lost. I've moved on. I guess it makes for an interesting story though!
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Can't say I'm too surprised. Victims are the ones who get silenced on FA. Don't want anyone starting drama now!
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Do you mind if I add a link to your FA-tagged section on Tumblr to my journal?
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I too have been getting lots of follows here. I left FA a while back but after I read your journal and seeing the admins poor excuse to make things right journal. I took all my art down and officially closed up shop. Feels good to be honest, also now maybe people will see weasyl IS the better site. I mean it already has EVERYTHING people want so badly on FA XD
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I'm really honoured every time I hear someone say that what I wrote helped convince them to abandon FA. And yeah, you can upload your work here worry-free, knowing it's got no association with anyone so vile!
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It only takes one to start a revolution and I truly hope that FA takes a huge hit from this. Though looking at the weasyl numbers something tells me it already has.
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The resources I got were collected from others who documented the shit Neer and Zaush have pulled, so I would have never been aware of any of this if it weren't for their initial legwork. Even if I wrote everything from scratch, the second person is the one who makes a trend! Without anyone else supporting it, I'd have just been an outlier. So overall? Great team effort.
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Aye, I'm just glad that people are making the move =)
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You betchya Ransom. Congrats on maintaining your base during your migration, not only that but GAINING followers, and respect! B Also yeah, so not even concerned about my watchers or personal watchlist. Although at firs I was very worried...I've left FA a couple of times and there was always that pocket of people that try to make you feel simply terrible about it. I found nearly everybody, either here or elsewhere! Also passed 400 watchers and approaching 1,000 pageviews in a little bit, so in otherwords...anybody who truly cares and really does want to keep up is here now. Why did I ever worry? ;3
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I was totally prepared to take a hit in the follower count. It's way more important that I stand up for what's right than remain adhered to FA. If anybody doesn't agree with our reasons for leaving, fuck 'em — we don't need friends or fans like that.
Even if our initial follower counts are lower here, it doesn't matter. We just gotta keep doing what we do, and they'll get back to normal or higher eventually! Additionally, because so many awful people are staying on FA, we're likely to end up with better people commenting on our stuff and creating along with us over here.
I'm pretty optimistic about how things will go here on Weasyl.
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I, like many others, have linked to your tumblr page when people ask what's going on! A lot more artists are getting fed up with how things are run and how we're treated when we try to express our distaste. I'm glad so many more people have joined Weasyl. Maybe the mass exodus thing will actually happen! Haha. :D
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Ten-thousand new registrations in a day isn't insignificant! People are still liking and reblogging my Tumblr post too.
I'm thankful for people like you spreading the word. We're all helping by doing so.
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Isn't it awesome when you make a difference?
You're a friggin' champion in my books, dude.-
It was a team effort. We should all get tag team championship belts.
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People I haven't seen active on ANY art site have been flocking here- I've connected with people that I haven't spoken to in like.. years.
Getting away from that site is bringing out the best in people. What and odd phenomenon...
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FA is a toxic cesspool. People's behaviour changes depending on their environment and the system they're in. We can freely express our distaste here and celebrate others for being decent people.
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I think a few drinks this weekend are in order. That is if you're still in town. :)
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Good to see you're making out well, you certainly have a healthy audience no matter where you go!
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And overall a better one here, as far as I can tell. I'm very thankful for it.
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I'm glad to see that you're getting a lot of support for your criticisms! Usually I don't support this kind of thing, but it's essential to point out how childish the administration of FurAffinity is acting as a result of this debacle. Best of luck to you!
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This debacle and beyond. Even beyond Zaush's evil, there's no denying a number of the scummy things Dragoneer, himself, has done. Were it just two lesser-known members arguing, I might call it drama, but it's a big deal when community leaders perpetuate serious crimes and general corruption.
Thank you for the support.
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The argument that some of what you presented was doctored and made up is rather dubious and flawed anyone can claim that. Thats the lame Its made up excuse really. What had me upset was your ban. Your always a quiet respectful person who always conducts himself with poise and manners at cons unlike a great many people who think con/hotel space is not a public space. But I digress. That's what had me going now wait a minute here Ransom doesn't fly off the handle lightly he has a reason for being mad. Which is why i shared your experience. I used to support Neer and pity Neer and feel For him. Its hard being the head of such a huge site. Furries bitch about everything. Hell I like Sciggles. But I cannot support the direction and the constant stream of mistakes and errors FA is undergoing. But constant bad staff choices before Wan, And questionable practices and banning of a friend who has a mental illness. Had me already feeling sour. Allegations, Guilty or innocent how this thing was handled was unprofessional and messy. I am leaving my account but I am not actively supporting FA And IF FA fails I have an
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Your always a quiet respectful person who always conducts himself with poise and manners at cons unlike a great many people who think con/hotel space is not a public space. … That's what had me going now wait a minute here Ransom doesn't fly off the handle lightly he has a reason for being mad.
I'm flattered that you think that way of me, Rexx! I try to be polite, and if I overstep boundaries, I then try to apologize. I wish I could say I always conduct myself with poise, but I ended up accidentally getting the drunkest I've ever been at the last AC, during
Aerys' party — and that's coming from an infantryman, haha. I don't know if those drinks were a lot stronger than I thought, or if it had something to do with the change in elevation, or if someone drugged me, or what, but I don't remember the whole Friday night. Even still, apparently I was very polite to the people who were concerned about me — a total wreck, but still apologetic for being so, haha. So I just texted my friends and asked them to please come and get me. It was apparently "very Canadian" of me.
But I digress. I'm just glad to see so many people voicing their distaste for the FA staff and their supporters.
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I've been trying to follow all the posts in all the places, but it's a bit hard, especially to my dinosaur brain. I'm still not exactly clear how tumblr works. But I have to say this; I'm very pleased with the turn of events here.
I've been speaking out under various names on these subjects, and other deeply unethical behavior in this fandom for... goodness, years now.
Mostly, I've made it a goal to talk to people one on one. I feel that I do my best when I'm given time to completely explore an issue, and I can keep intrusive tangents out; for example, I can use hypotheticals and thought experiments to present a point of view, and let them decide if it's a view that they like or not. (And while I haven't always been 100% fair, I promise I don't cherry pick and gloss over negatives, I try to present the whole situation, good and bad alike.)I have to say, this small group of loyal posters has started something that I thought would never happen.
You've managed to chip away some of the decades old, soul crushing apathy that's gripped this fandom.
You've done more in this short amount of time than I have to date; my compliments :)I genuinely hope FA has some serious competition now. They've been using their status as "the only alternative", to strangle the market, I feel. It seems to me, as if Dragoneer is unwilling to effect changes (let alone listen to -basic ethics-), for fear of making unpopular choices.
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That's truly flattering to know you feel we've made an inspiring difference.
Dragoneer making poor decisions while chasing popularity has been a common complaint I've heard. I can't say for certain what his motivation is — I've chalked it up to probably being some combination of both stupid and evil — but with the way he protects popular scumbags while dissuading complaints by lesser-known members, he's certainly done nothing to disprove that theory.
Even without Weasyl, there's also Tumblr, and potentially SoFurry — I don't know much about that site one way or the other — though I've heard a lot of negativity about the community of Inkbunny. But at least Weasyl is shaping up to be a serious competitor.
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Goodness; topics like these always spark a lot of thought in me. And by extension, tons of tangents.
I won't lie, I find his behavior puzzling as well... I have some theories but it's really kind of off topic.As far as SoFurry however? I don't think they have the capacity to be a real alternative for active posters; plus their feature set is more oriented for writers (which makes sense of course).
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I came for your rant, I stayed for your art aha :)
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I'm glad you're here and sticking around, Bluegrass!
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So glad you posted that journal with all the evidence about that particular case, was already feeling frightened and unsafe on FA beforehand and your journal was the final push for me. Thank you for that :)
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There's legitimate concern for people to feel uneasy on FA. This community is supposed to be a safe and fun place. We shouldn't have to worry about this kind of stuff. At least Weasyl is shaping up to be a great alternative to FA, with a generally more-virtuous userbase.
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Agreed, and with a lot of the features already on here that FA users desperately want on FA. That, and in my honest opinion I don't think Project Phoenix is going to happen, given FA's track record on updates. Which may encourage yet more people onto Weasyl :3
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You have earned a lot of people's admiration and respect, and rightfully so. As little information as there has been available on the FA debacle, you truly did a service to the community by synthesizing it into a digestible essay. It allowed many people to make their own decisions on the matter, although I must admit that I personally don't understand the decisions to stick around there. The matter seems to clear to me, at least.
Thanks again for sticking your neck out there, and attracting attention to the problems created by this situation. I hope it has not been as stressful in the past few days as it was when you first published that essay.
And thank you as well for redistributing my words on the subject, it eases my discomfort to feel like my thoughts make sense to other people. Nothing feels worse than intellectual impotence on a subject you feel very strongly about. <3
Cheers, man. This place already feels... better. :D
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Admittedly, the weekend was stressful. I was so angry and so many stupid people. Part of the reason I wrote that journal was so I didn't have to keep repeating myself against the most common arguments, and it just so happens that a whole hell of a lot of people agreed with it. The subsequent days were definitely better! The flurry of messages that has ensued was intense — probably nearing three-thousand in total from all sources. Thankfully, it was 99% positive! Still, it kept me very busy.
Now it feels a little weird to log in and only see a few notes at a time! It's good though; I can concentrate on drawing again, haha. Thanks to so many people, the information has been widely spread out there. Without the sources I found, and the support I got, very little positivity could have come from this.
I'm glad we've got a safe and guilt-free place to share our work now. Thanks for all your help.
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hey, that tumblr post was really well worded and throughout.
i'm not a furry but i did follow some people on fA for a while. what took place and how it was handled was terrible. it's nice to see there are many decent people around though
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I've had another not-furry comment with support on my journal; it's really unusual and interesting to get that kind of positivity! So thanks.
The attitudes of the FA staff, and many of the users, are really disgusting, but it is encouraging to see so many decent people voicing their distaste and making the move over here.
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I am addicted to kitty RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION
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Then check my Tumblr, haha. You'll find plenty under the tag that I linked.
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imma leech off your popularity. Here it goes!
But no seriously mang, I followed you cause of
-and- the fact that you come across as intelligent and nice to talk to. You've been pleasant on tumblr too (I'm ratchet-celeste from the other day). So no regrets on this follow, and I look forward to interactions in the future!