They Finally Censored My Journal On FA by Ransom

The lengthy journal I put on FA calling out the staff for their abusive bullshit has finally been deleted. It had over 200 comments. I can't believe it took them that long, haha.

The journal is mirrored on Tumblr, and I know lots of other people have been saving it too. Feel free to reblog and crosspost it.

Fighting with thick-skulled, apathetic rape-apologists all weekend has been draining. It's like some people have a 100% immunity to both logic and empathy. However, the support I've received on Fur Affinity, Tumblr, here on Weasyl, and in private has all been very encouraging and heartwarming. Some people have said some truly kind and flattering things about me for speaking out about the injustices, and more importantly, the journal's clarified a lot of what's happened and already spread much further than I'd expected. The villainous behaviour of Dragoneer, Zaush, and their goons is getting a light shed on it. The more people who know, the better.

Thank you so much for speaking out with me, everyone. I'm really glad to see so many people refuse to tolerate such immoral behaviour in the representatives of their community.

Edit: I got a note from Dragoneer. Here's my final correspondence on FA.

They Finally Censored My Journal On FA

Ransom

19 January 2014 at 18:41:34 MST

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    You did right. Everyone who moved did in my book.

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      Thanks. It wasn't a hard decision.

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    Weird I guess I turned up literally minutes before they did, good timing I suppose.

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      How punctual of you! Glad you saw it.

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    You inspired me to do my own speaking out post, though I haven't posted it on FA yet. It's a personal story and its hard, but if it can help other people in similar situations...then it's worth it. And I think the admin should have another survivor speaking up. Either way, thanks

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      That's good. Depending on what happened to people and how they've healed from it, I can be tough for some people to talk about their experiences. The last thing that's needed is apathy, for people to think that what's happening on FA is some distant problem that doesn't concern anyone. I'm honoured that I could inspire you.

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      Ah, you're another victim?

      I know how it is. There's research that shows that almost all rapists strike many, many times. I realized that when the guy who raped me hit a friend of mine. We can stand together and get through all this. He can claim one's a lie, but as the crowds come forward, maybe it will bury him and his supporters. That's how we can all deal with it. Let the evil ones be silenced and let the victims speak up.

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        Not of Zaush himself, but I was married to an emotional abuser for several years. Still, that experience taught me a lot, and after a few years of healing, I'm definitely going to stand up against people like that. I can't stand to see things even similar to my experience happen to others.

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          I know how you feel.

          We shall overcome this crap if we keep trying.

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        I agree with when many come forward (especially when they don't know each other) it lends huge credence. When I came out against a person who harmed me, and stuck around in the community they were a part of, people started to wonder if "all the stories" they heard were true, and if it wasn't just a case of him "sticking his dick in crazy". My husband, within a few months of dating, had his suspicions confirmed after I told him what happened to me - apparently an ex of his (a state away) had been raped by him. The more vocal the skeptics and survivors got the more that man shrank into obscurity. I can go to a lot of social functions without worry, because several others keep an eye out and, due to us victims coming forward, have banned him.

        It's tough when people cry for "evidence" and there is none to give or freely show (I could show scars but people could easily dismiss them). It's gross when you read court cases WITH video evidence where the rapist/assaulter goes free. It's not an easy world out there, and I wish most folks would just STFU at the very least - because lack of evidence is not just a lack of it happening, but not happening either. ("tree falls in the forest does it make a sound if no one is there to hear it" kinda dealy)

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          Very much so. Most rapists strike again, if everyone speaks up, it becomes clear who isn't safe.

          At least to sane people. Crazy people like to go on about court cases and other BS.

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    Surprized it took them as long as it did, the message got out before they did, so that's a plus

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      Seconding this. I saw it this morning within the first hour of it getting posted, and was surprised it lasted THAT long. XD

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        Crazy that a number of folks were able to reply to it before the big [censored] sign came down to cover it all

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    It's definitely gotten around. A friend of mine who isn't even on the site linked me to a reblog of your tumblr mirror today.

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      That's good to know!

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    I just explained to people how people are uncomfortable with a person like that having access to personal info "you're just jealous"

    If I need to sexually intimidate and coerce impressionable people to get art famous i'll give up.

    FA needs to change hands or die.

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      It's baffling how many people are siding with Zaush and Dragoneer. It's like Kittiara and I were discussing:

      Kittiara
      god yes
      these smackdowns....
      and the fact that people are like THERE IS NO PROOF is like... THERE IS LITERALLY PROOF THAT THESE EXCHANGES HAPPENED. ALL PARTIES SAID SEX HAPPENED. SEX WITHOUT CONSENT IS RAPE.
      ohhhh my goodddd it's their only defense

      Ransom:
      CAN'T PROVE IT

      *links to like 50 pieces of evidence*

      Kittiara:
      LOL
      YEP WOW RANSOM HOW COULD YOU MAKE SUCH CLAIMS
      you're only linking to shit the perpetrator ACTUALLY SAID

  • Link

    Glad it got out to lots more people :3

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      Yeah, me too! Way more than I'd expected. There's about 500 notes about it on Tumblr alone so far.

  • Link

    I would say you're doing gods' work, but if they existed, they'd probably want nothing to do with this mess.

    All the same, you're a champ for setting the record straight & making the case for why people should care about this. It's exhausting to argue with the online equivalent of a brick wall, but I like to think you sprayed them sufficiently to let passers-by know what's up. (sprayed with paint, obviously- what were YOU thinking??)

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      It's exhausting, yeah — that's partially why I wrote such a comprehensive post. Rather than pick off individual targets who keep spouting the same inane shit over and over, I took the common retorts I got and consolidated them into one list so I and others could refer to it as needed.

      Thanks for the support, Phrog.

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    No man, thank YOU for spreading the word further and getting all that out. this whole thing is terrible and downright sickening. The line HAS to be drawn somewhere...

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      Yeah. If not now, then when? What will it take for people to say they've had enough?

  • Link

    I screen capped the whole thing as well. Glad so many people saw it before it got censored

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      Hell yeah! I got many of the comments captured, myself, but not all of them. Thanks a lot.

  • Link

    Oh my god, he basically just said that it only matters if they were convicted. If he actually did "understand your concerns", the smart thing would be to wash his hands of Wan and be done with the rapist.

    • Link

      He's about as far as a person can possibly be from getting a fucking clue.

  • Link

    I'm surprised It took them this long! Reblogged your mirror on tumblr a few hours ago, really happy it's getting around as much as it is.

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      Thank you! I'm really happy about it too — the reaction has been mostly positive.

  • Link

    Yeah, and not only that, but a troll's now spamming your shouts with indignant shrieking about how women are whores lying about rape, etc. You know, MRA bullshit.

    • Link

      Pft, whatever. How many people is a random dude who doesn't even have an avatar going to reach through the shouts of my abandoned gallery? Insignificant audience and no credibility.

  • Link

    Been neutral in this situation for awhile, but I have minimal tolerance for censorship - especially something of this furtive nature.

    • Link

      Yeah, they've changed my links, hidden and suspended the commentary of numerous other users, and deleted my journal. If it's not the rape, it's easily one of so many other things that prove the staff of FA is villainous garbage.

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    The complete inane level of sheer bull-headed ignorance on Dragoneer's part continues to make me shake my head in flabbergasted awe. It's painfully apparent how absolutely ignorant he is on subjects like this. PAINFULLY few rapists ever get convicted. Most are left happy and free to continue their long and illustrious career of sexual predation for the entirety of the rest of their miserable lives. He has no FUCKING idea.

    If a day ever comes when Zaush finally IS held legally accountable for all the gross abusive shit he's done to women over the years ... I'm going to so VERY hurriedly and enthusiastically dig up EVERY scrap of proof I can of Neer's deliberate and knowing protection of him, and do everything in my mortal power to make sure that purple Digimon fuck goes RIGHT down the drain with that monster. That's my most sincere of promises. If/When Zaush finally goes down, I'll be SURE Neer goes with him. That's as sure and true as a blood oath.

    Following you on here, as you are an amazing person with an immeasurable level of integrity, morality, and wisdom. Kudos to you for your bravery to put those depraved fiends in their proper place.

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      It's outlandish how ignorant and just foolish Dragoneer is continually proving to be.

      Your words about me, on the other hand, are really kind. I feel honoured to be receiving both this quantity and quality of praise.

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        Rest assured that said praise is VERY well-deserved. You've been one of the most articulate and concise speakers on this issues that I've seen thus far, and that's worth a WHOLE lotta respect, in my book. With any luck, soon all that'll be left on FA are Neer and Zaush's corral of Yes-Men and we can keep all the gross morons contained in one spot for easy avoidance, LOL.

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          That's a good way to put it, haha.

  • Link

    You did the right thing. Screw them.

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      Thanks, dude. I appreciate the bolstering support I've been receiving.

      • Link

        And rightly so. Hell, anyone with enough stones such as you deserves them.

  • Link

    "The evil that lurks in this world exists at a level far greater most could ever envision, and rest often wish they couldn't."

    I hope that more see the truth as it is, as the tear in the fandom and as it turns out, now in my own personal circle, is tiring, painful, and mentally trying. I'm moving over entirely, my disappointment and disgust is such that I feel moving over is necessary. I just worry in that I intend to keep my FA account for the time being that people don't see me as approving of the actions and behaviors of the staff.

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      While a lot of people have been revealed to be ignorant and disgusting, the display of support I've seen here, on FA, and on Tumblr has been surprisingly large! It's really nice to see that so many people disprove of the FA staff's immorality. Most of them are migrating here, and most of the ones who don't see a problem are staying with FA. It suggests that Weasyl's userbase is more likely to be made up of decent human beings.

  • Link

    You are an awesome person and I hope Neer gets heartburn just thinking about it.

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      I can only hope I burned him enough on the way out, haha.

      • Link

        I would've said "So let me guess he got the job by coercing you into sex, and blackmailing you to give him the position, right?"

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          How is Zaush not nicknamed Spin Doctor, Ph.D at this point?

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            Because sociopaths're so good at convincing people of this, stuff. Believe me not him but I was a victim of someone very similar. I only ended up going to the cops after he full on did rape me, not just pushed me til the point where my no became yes.

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              Someone very close to me was coerced into sex and the guys family is a ridiculously upper-class kind of family. Pretty sure justice is unreachable for her, so I can sort of empathize.

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                Yeah, and since I used to do things somewhat willingly with the guy, the cops around here aren't even taking it all seriously, even though I have screenshots of the skype convo where he tried to apologize to me right after saying how he knew I didn't want it, but did it anyway.
                He then went and said how he'd want to date be but since I already have a kid he's not ready for the responsibilities of being a dad.

                • Link

                  Oh wow. There's a level of douchebaggery there that is just nauseating.

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                    very, worst part about him is he lives in my apartment complex T_T

  • Link

    Yeah just like everyone else, I'm surprised it took em this long. Oh well, the message got out.

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      It's out there and has spread way farther than I had anticipated!

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    Reblogging on my tumblr, too. Ahahaha I still have the FA journal up when it was posted hours ago. This is all kind of beyond fucked up. I'm glad people are leaving. Being a victim of abuse myself I can't support this kind of shit.

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      Yeah, I'm glad so many other people won't tolerate their awful behaviour. Thanks for the reblog!

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        Oh I intend to repost it on my journal many many many times. Once I delete all my art :3 There's no excuse for this shit. No means No. End of. Period. Fuck people.

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    ...and my disgust, rage and hatred at Dragoneer and Zaush grows ever larger.

    • Link

      Fuck those guys and the people supporting them.

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    Its about time someone stood up to Neer and called him out for his bullshit. I tried a few years ago but it only resulted my rep being smeared my and him banning me from the forums. He accused me of leaving death threats on his cell phone. I later discovered that Neer had accused other furs of this before.

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      How dare you criticize his shitty behaviour. You'll never be popufur at this rate!

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        I know, right? Neer always knows what hes doing (not)

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    I left FA as soon as I heard Zaush was in charge of the re vamp of the site. Your journal was beautiful and I screen capped it myself. Glad to have you here.

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      Glad to see you've jumped ship too!

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    I managed to save the journal page at 192 comments, not sure how to host it though, its an actual mirror of the page, including most if not all links, even the artist icons link to their live pages on FA. (did not test all links some may not work)

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    Wan is a terrible person so it's not like I'm shocked he's been accused of sexually assaulting women, but those claims are unproven. What's known is how abusive he's been to the volunteers working under him on project thing that dies in a flaming heap. If Dragoneer wasn't to afraid upsetting Wan/his fans, he could have been kicked off the project for that, but that might have been the smart thing to do.

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      Even if you discounted all of the testimonies, he's still a notorious creep. A lot of people are being very myopic, though — it's not just one incident with Zaush that's the problem. There's a whole slew of other shit to be concerned about.

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    OH MY FUCKING GOG THAT NOTE DRAGONEER GAVE YOU I FUCKING CANT THATS IT IM DONE GOODBYE THIS IS MY LAST VIDEO

    • Link

      I'm actually pretty proud of that burn I left on my way out, haha.

      • Link

        I'm surprised your account hasn't been banned for it yet. but that was a great burn.

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          It's probably suspended. I don't know; after I sent it, I logged out. Who cares if I get banned though? Oh no, please don't suspend or ban me from the site that I and all my friends have vowed to leave because of how awful of a person you are.

          I'm done there. That insult was my finisher.

  • Link

    This has been a long time coming.
    Not normally the type to engage in schadenfreude, but here I am...watching it burn.

  • Link

    I am very glad you posted that journal, It helped me see them for what they where and just how far they would go to hide their asses. I made up my mind and moved here and warned everyone of my friends to also leave fa. This whole situation is just gross and even though its nothing new that the staff at fa is anything but great this is a new low for them. The fact that dragoneer ignores all the allegations and testimonies from other people (including his gf!) because it wasn't "taken to court" is fucking horrible and not to mention zauch is apparently a horrid team player so this whole thing is pretty much just damn amazing in a can't look away from the monstrosity sort of terrible.

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      He's awful — utterly incompetent. I saw the chat log of him trying to motivate the other developers before they were driven away. He talked down to them like he wanted to be some hard-ass sergeant and they were his privates in boot camp. I've graduated boot camp, and I'm saying his management style is junk. That's not how you motivate people, especially civilians. They're not soldiers that you're trying to break down and reshape into steeled combatants; they're just coders.

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    Really the worst part is that because Zaush was never convicted and because Chase played takebacksies on his comments about his sexual habits, Neer thinks it's okay to call them innocent. I'm curious if the other girls Zaush harassed ever came forward to Neer, cause that could have been convicting in itself, and it would have proven him to be an even bigger sleaze than he already is for hiring Zaush. Not to mention making it a suspendable/bannable offense to spread the information simply because "it's all hear-say" when there are screenshots and leaks of the notes to prove otherwise, and the only proof we lack is Zaush's being short of an on-paper conviction. The fact that Neer is still calling himself neutral on the matter is the most infuriating, especially with that statement from 2 other coders who left Project Phoenix because of his mistreating them and acting like he knew everything, and then to go on Twitter asking for help on how to use the very coding programming he's insisting on for the new site (even if he did it out of sarcasm, that's really tactless but then again it IS Zaush).

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      Neer's own GF, when he was explaining what someone told him said how it sounded like Zaush because he'd tried to do it to her and got all pushy but she pushed back with no enough that he gave up. So he KNOWS it's more than hearsay.

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        That just adds to the disgusting counter. 8D

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          I saw the chat logs displaying how he treated the other developers. He's junk. No wonder they were pushed away.

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            With how Dragoneer's responding in general, it's creepy it's like he's trying to cover for his own shortcomings anyway. I wonder what he feels guilty for in his own conscious?
            I'm leaving not just because of this fiasco, but because people like AnonymousLion, and ESPECIALLY celticwindwolf.
            Tracers who lie and cover it up, esp cww, who are making money off people's trusting/stupidity.

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    ten outta ten

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    I thank you for speaking out and standing up. May life find you fortune and success.

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      It needed to be done. Thank you!

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        A friend in one of my IRC channels linked your original journal, and within 2 hours of the link being posted and me trying to access it, I received a "This journal does not exist." error. After a bit of Googling (which I am more than glad I did) I stumbled upon your tumblr (thank you so much for mirroring it there as well). This speaks mounds and mounds against FA, and your post was the proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back." Both my artist boyfriend and I have jumped ship, and I have you to thank.

        So.

        Again, thank you, thank you so much.

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          I'm really happy to read that! Best of luck to both of you here on Weasyl and other sites.

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    Hey, if you ever open up for commissions, I amgame. Least I can do for knocking those pricks down a couple pegs.

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      I will before too long! I just have a few to finish before I take any more.

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    I have no idea how people can stay on that site... "he's not a rapist as he didn't get convicted!" People can do shit without getting convicted. Hell, it's not like our judicial system is flawless. I mean, lookit the Zimmerman/Trayvon thing. There's a ton of evidence of what happened, but the guy gets away only to cause more shit later down the line. But really, people aren't taking this seriously and reading what's said. You have Dragoneer making rape jokes and saying how what Zaush did was "immoral" (even saying his own girlfriend had the same shit happen to her), you have Zaush defending himself saying things like "it's a case of her getting what she wanted and then flipping" or "I never harassed/pressured women into sleeping with me, I was just living a swinger life", you have EVERY comment/journal mentioning all this or after enough Dragoneer participated comments end up getting erased while vocal protesters wind up suspended/banned, you have lots of people admitting that Zaush is a pushy creeper even back before the leaked notes thing happened... It's like people need a fucking Blue's Clues paw stuck to something to get their attention to really look at what's in front of them!

    What's sad is there will be some artists anchored there. They can't leave. A good deal of people who buy stuff from them are the furries who contribute fandom rot by saying how FA is the best site ever and won't ever leave no matter what. They don't care about the integrity of the site or the well-being of the fandom. They're just on that site for the pictures. I only hope that eventually all the artists do peel off of FA, so that site can just fester with all those vile people until the site crashes due to lack of funds and activity, and the artists here and other places know better than to take orders from the rotten stragglers. It would be the equivalent of the fandom getting gangrene in a leg and it falling off, but at least the fandom would have the purging it needs.

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      I laughed at the Blue's Clues reference. Overall, the whole thing is well-said.

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        Hahah thanks~ Really tired and migrained out right now and I think I should really step away from sites that allow me to type stuff on so I don't ramble too much XP Really, your post... it was so damn golden. It has everything I have wanted to say for years and it was put together so well. Thank you for posting it up (and mirroring it so it could still be shared, long after the inevitable FA deletion).

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    My post linking to your oringinal journal was being shared as well. A lot of people have screen captured your journal to ensure it stays out there. You did good and there are a lot of people who are more aware of what FA is turning into. Thanks again!

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      And thank you for the support!

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    I'll forever more always be around to help defend against injustice, nomatter who causes it. No human has such rights to such deeds. no matter how famous or hairy they may be.....

    hang in there budd. Ill be right there w/ ya.

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    Honestly, your journal was the last straw for me. I was teetering on the fence when this all dropped on us the last few days, as any time I somehow ended up on zaush's page there the past few years, Ive always had a flashback to the hacking and leak of that note to neer. For them to try and cover up what many, including me, probably felt and remembered just by going to someone's page is utter bullshit. I was planning on just using Weasyl and SF a lot more at first, but when I was linked to your journal by a friend, I made the decision to completely leave the site. Granted, I will still lurk, no commenting, no faving, no activity at all basically except looking at work, until the move over calms down for most to see who made the switch and who got left behind.

    BUT, my biggest hope so far is that a LOT of the bigger artists are leaving the place for Weasyl and other art sites alike. With such a big push with the bigger artists, their dedicated followers will go with them. If the FA staff doesn't realize their serious mistake soon, which would be a blessing from above anyways if it happened, FA will drop this time.

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      Even if FA stays afloat, whatever — it's like Synhowl said: "With any luck, soon all that'll be left on FA are Neer and Zaush's corral of Yes-Men and we can keep all the gross morons contained in one spot for easy avoidance."

      I'm glad that you and so many others have decided to abandon FA after reading my journal. And to think someone had made a comment in it saying that it was dumb that I took an hour to write it, because nobody's opinions will be changed, haha.

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    I am glad your journal is all over tumblr by now. And now some of Neers recently tweets makes me want to leave FA 100%.

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      Yeah, it's beyond his control. He's a clod.

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    I think the artists who are very loudly declaring that they will never leave FA in order to preserve their popufur status will find that it bites them in the ass.

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      How noble of them to go down with the ship.

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    I wanted to thank you for making such journal and mirror on tumblr, it was really nice to have a good summarize of the whole situation and it made me actually take my own decision about FA.
    There's a lot of questions that come to mind about popularity and responsibilities for such people on our community, and i think what disgust me most is that, because of such popularity most ignorant or apologist are ready to accept what is really serious in real life, just because of the sake of a website. I mean, how can such terrible people end up having that sort of power over other furries just because they own a stupid website or, you know... because of the porn they draw ?
    So yeah, i was already really pissed by FA and its security/code/staff management issues and, well this was the last straw for me too.

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      It took some time to research and write, not to mention the effort of fighting with various people before hand, but it seems worth it now. Look at all of the people who have seen it and taken it to heart. I'm glad you liked it.

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    Thank you for sticking up for whats right!

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      Any time.

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    It was your journal post that I saw on Tumblr that clarified why everyone was moving to weasyl/leaving in general. I'm glad I found you! I mentioned in a journal of mine (not even naming names or reasons why) that I was leaving, and it got no curiosity. Just one comment of "Yeah I'm not going anywhere see ya later" basically. I don't have the kind of reach you would have, Ransom, so I'm not too sure if I should even TRY. Thank you for shedding the light.

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      The more people who voice their disapproval, even if the audience is small, the better. Hell, I didn't expect to get many comments before the journal was deleted, and I figured the Tumblr post would just get passed-over like most things I blog, but it's spun out of control! So yeah, you might get lucky, and it all adds up anyway.

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    Your j9ournal was perfectly civil 8T Neer is a huge tool.

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      Haha, "civil" is arguable, but the latter is indisputable.

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    I managed to get a quick look at your journal before it was deleted. Holy shit, it was great.

    And that "final correspondence"... PERFECT AND FUCKING BEAUTIFUL.

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    You are a glorious creature. I'm only sad I didn't get to see the reply from whomever commented on my link of atrocious rumor-mongering to belittle the victim. ; A;

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      Thank you, Atroxi! ♥

      Don't worry about the lost comment. Regardless of what was said, there is tons of disapproval for the actions of Dragoneer and Zaush. Plus, apparently a lot of people have screenshots, so if you really gotta know, ask around.

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        It's more my morbid sense of curiosity. I'm probably best leaving it alone.

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    SO MANY COMMENTS HERE, SORRY TO ADD ONE MORE, but i'm so happy that you put that on your tumblr as well. I've been throwing that thing around and people have been like WHOA THIS HAPPENED? Dragoneer must be sweating bullets at this point.

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      Pft, who knows what stupid bullshit is going through his mind? That guy's a delusional toolbox.

      I'm really glad that so many people have seen and agreed with what I wrote. Thank you for helping to share it.

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    It's amazing how many people just claim ignorance and then when they're shown the facts it's still, "oh well I still believe what I believe." But I'm hoping this will be the final nail in the coffin for FA, because it's been a long time coming. I'm honestly still surprised I've never gotten suspended or banned for the number of times I've spoken out against him and some of the other crap on there. Because I know I'm not liked for it. ^^;

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      Even if it doesn't cause critical existence failure for FA, fuck 'em. They can stay in their dumpy little cesspool, far away from decent people.

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    "Fighting with thick-skulled, apathetic rape-apologists all weekend has been draining. It's like some people have a 100% immunity to both logic and empathy. However, the support I've received on Fur Affinity, Tumblr, here on Weasyl, and in private has all been very encouraging and heartwarming." ~Ransom

    Quoted and Tweeted.

    https://twitter.com/FerretSage (private, but those who knock stand a better chance of being let in.)

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      I don't use Twitter, but I'm flattered!

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    I don't understand how Dragoneer can say your journal contained libel. You were never convicted of libel. ;)

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      lmao

      Beautiful.

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    What I really don't like about the whole ordeal are the people that seemingly want to "shrug off" the thing as nothing "serious" and try to "ridicule" the people who were either affected in some distant way or wanted to stand up to the shitty things that continue to happen at FA, all under the banner of "causing drama".

    I'm not causing "drama" when I want to make a stand and pack my things because I don't like how some things are run at a website or some other place, it's my own thing if I stay or go away, but one shouldn't be made fun of because of that decision, whatever the reasons, that is in no way "drama" in my eyes.

    As well as the whole thing if it actually happened or not. Even if it doesn't it was just another very bad management move by Dragoneer to insistuate Zaush into that position, even someone with just vague knowledge of what may or may not have happened could foresee the possible "drama" that would ensue. Though I can also not tolerate some of the people that raged in a very negative manner about the whole situation. The majority of the fandom should already be adults, considering the mature artwork shown and liked, so all of that should have been handled in a adult way, getting peeved on both sides doesn't help even if I know that it can be aggrevating when wanting to make a stand and not having the means to do it (call-out journals, defaming, etc. not being allowed, which is a good thing, but what other means are there then?) and staff being trigger happy when things run out of control. That's a thing where both sides are to blame, people for voicing their opinions in a malicious way and staff / management (Dragoneer) for handling it in a poor way e.g. not giving a proper means to vent about the situation because we all know, talking about that one topic with site-staff will lead nowehere and will be dropped, so what other means are there? Right, none. If a civil way doesn't work, then it will sooner or later be like the way it is right now, a shitfest of accusations, "drama"-slinging on both sides and people aggrevated. We are one fandom, one community, when will be the day that we can act like it in a mature way? I'm really looking forward to that day, but with things looking like they are now, I'm not really convinced that it may be anytime soon.

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      Also, after reading your note to Dragoneer:
      Don't do that, that's exactly the thing I meant with "raging in a malicious way", whether it's on "your side" or the "other side".
      By dragging it out like this and wording your reply to him like this you help no one and certainly not your cause of informing others, instead letting you appear in bad light since Dragoneer now has something to throw back at you, credibility-wise. Reply in a calm but demanding manner to get your points across, you have the information and means to do so to at least counter most of those claims in an appropiate way, don't retort back with name-calling, even if you burned all contacts with FA now.

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        While civility is generally a good way to go, by that point, I was done with FA. Everything I wrote in that journal, even if peppered with curses and delivered with anger, was relevant to the users of that site, and especially to Neer and Zaush.

        Amongst his delusional management style, Dragoneer has a documented history of aiding sexual predators, and deserves none of my respect. He's got no ammo from what I said — my own credibility is hardly threatened by laying a final "fuck you" on him.

        By all means, though, others are welcome to take a calmer approach to calling out his bullshit if they want. The more voices decrying him and his actions, the better.

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    I'd just like to say that your journal was absolutely brilliant, and so was your response to Neer's note after it got nuked.

    Also, to expand on the list of Stupid-Shit-Neer-Does that you had in your original journal... can we talk about the TORA incident? TORA was a really good buddy of his who also happened to be a registered sex offender after he and his boyfriend committed statutory rape against a 14-year-old boy in their hotel room (and took pictures on top of it all!). After that TORA was caught trying to bait minors into sending him nude pics via FA notes. Neer tried to cover it up, and then when it finally got out of control, "banned" him from FA and then poured his heart out all over Twitter about how haaaaarrrrrddd it was having to ban such a good buddy of his from FA. He was legally obligated to report the incident to the authorities, but I SINCERELY doubt he ever did and opted to keep it covered up so his good buddy wouldn't get in trouble.

    I'm amazed he hasn't made TORA an admin yet tbh. I mean he's already got a rapist and a dogfucker in charge, soooo...

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      Jeez, I wish I had links to that stuff when I was writing my journal! But seriously, fuck Dragoneer. There is no excuse for his behaviour.

      Also, I can't remember the last time I gave anyone that scathing of a burn, haha.

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    I threw up my arms, I'm done, I lost my cool, I left comments I'm not exactly proud of because of reaching my trigger limit, but that's what had to happen for me to realize I just cannot deal with that toxicity in my art life. It is paralyzing to progress and I never wanted my place for sharing art to devolve to that. I don't know why I didn't leave years ago after the actual, literal ABUSE I received at the hands of people that had no moral right being in a position of web authority.

    My friends can make their own decisions, but I have to take a stand here. It's not JUST this, it's also the years and years of unaddressable vulnerabilities and exploits in the software, that constantly makes the hardware crash, the incompetency of people that won't be bothered to take a community course in public relations, seriously it is just not worth it.

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      I spit a lot of venom over there too, but I don't regret it. They deserve worse. It's funny that you mentioned "public relations," because I was just telling Kittiara how I've never seen anyone so desperately in need of a PR team. Their blunders are worse than Rob Ford levels.

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        The only reason I really regret losing my cool is because I did it in a way that really does make me sound stupid and immature, but it happens, it's an issue that affects me strongly.

        Yeah I have no idea how on Earth they are going to deal with this level of stirring up the hornet's nest. I think there was a post in the FA forums where someone basically said to the head admin, "Well if you don't have time to remember approving two very different but significant coding projects, you don't have time to run this website" and everyone could not help but agree.

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    OOOOH DAT FINAL BURN
    Dragoneer didn't just get incinerated
    He got fucking ATOMIZED

    But yeah it's a pity that such things happen. Hopefully you'll find that this place will be of much more worth to you, your friends and the followers that you have gathered.

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      Ahaha, atomized — I love that. I hope things work out on Weasyl! Despite a few problems, this place is already leagues better than FA, both in function and the general quality of its users.

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    just came over here to say your journal (and PM response) were A+. hope that ship goes down in flames.

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      Fantastic! Thanks for letting me know; I appreciate all the support.

      As for FA, let it sink with its captains.

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    I'm so glad you made that Tumblr post. I mean, I knew some of the stuff that was mentioned in it, but that just shed some more light on it, and more. I may not be leaving FA for my own reasons, but I'm so glad Weasyl is starting to get the attention it really deserves, and FA is being exposed for how bad a site and the people running it is. Good show!

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    That site is a cesspool, and the people who are running it are so scummy that you couldn't clean them with anything less than a wire brush. Thanks for your support! I hope your circumstances will permit you to abandon FA at some point.

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    Took them longer than expected I'll admit. But ffs, it's not just about the cover up any more (though that's a part of it). The comments, oh dear God the comments on some of those journals and about the incident as a whole are disgusting. 'Neer's responses were disgusting. How this was handled is disgusting. The amount of jokes, and people who lack empathy...

    That is why I chose to leave. I can't and won't be surrounded by that any more.

    Thank you for capping your journal on Tumblr. More people really should read it.

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      It's already got over a thousand likes/reblogs! That's easily a new record for anything I've blogged. Still, the furry community is very large. By all means, go ahead and spread the word. The more people who know about their appalling conduct, the better.

      Thank you for the kind support. I'm glad to help.

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    "Fighting with thick-skulled, apathetic rape-apologists all weekend has been draining. It's like some people have a 100% immunity to both logic and empathy." I literally can't even tell you how strongly I empathize with this right now, yesterday I made a post saying this site is staffed by rapists and rape apologists, bye and it got shared on some websites or something because I got a sudden barrage of like 200 fucking rape apologists telling me I'm lying about being a victims myself because I'm 'too ugly to be taped' and getting sent multiple messages on my transrants tumblr telling me to get raped. I literally made myself physically ill from stress and anger trying to reason with these fucking idiots who can't think of anyone but themselves. Here's hoping weasyl becomes a place those shitbags avoid and we have a decent central community in this fandom for once.

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      *raped

      wow excuse all my errors lmao

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        Seems like anyone with two braincells to rub together is making the switch. This is gonna result in a higher quality of users on Weasyl, while the people who remain behind can stay in that dump like the trash that they are.

        Synhowl summed it up well too: "With any luck, soon all that'll be left on FA are Neer and Zaush's corral of Yes-Men and we can keep all the gross morons contained in one spot for easy avoidance."

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    +follow for being a man and not a 12 year old chucklefuck chortling about "drama" and how they don't care because Zaush draws great porn (I wish I was exaggerating the latter).

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      I wish you were too, but I've seen comments that have said literally that, and worse.

      Thanks a lot for your support, Thistle. It's good to know not everyone in the fandom is so repugnant.

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    Your journal was great, and I commend you for taking such a strong stand against a site that has gotten so disgustingly awful lately. Or maybe it's always been that way but it took me a really long time to notice? In any case, this is the kind of thing that gives me more faith in the fandom, to know that there are good people with good hearts still out there, even if they're a lot more rare than I would like.

    The whole reason I joined the fandom was because it was a place filled with enthusiastic creative types and compassion, but that seems to be the exception rather than the rule now. I thought it was bad enough when FA filled up with rape fantasies, but now with actual predators being promoted and cheered on just because they draw popular fap material is very disheartening.

    I may just have to leave FA, but I'm a little scared about "starting over", too, and I'm sure that's a big part of why a lot of people are hesitant to just leave. That, and I thought I was friends with Dragoneer, but I can no longer excuse any of his behavior, but I don't want to start drama considering that a very large number of popular artists know my name.

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      I'm also disgusted with the number of people who are apathetic or approving the noxious situation on FA. Still, don't fret starting over — so many decent people have migrated here in protest. Even if your followers are initially fewer here, just keep doing what you do and the numbers will catch up. Not only that, those numbers are more likely to be made better-quality people, and you know it's quality over quantity.

      When you find your kind of people, it really ruins your patience for those who are merely okay, and especially those who are vile. Kick Neer's dumb ass to the curb.

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      Hah! I love that. Always glad to entertain.

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    I hate that lousy fuckhead.

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      Fuckin' A right.

      It's great to see you uploading your work here, on that note.

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        My pleasure. I still have an active account on FA but I had to take a 2-3 month break from that place. I was having fucking rages every night just thinking about it. Here's a song about FA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJYDgUYxL-k

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          "Fuck this place!"

          How apt, haha. And I guess it has been, like, three months since that shitstorm blew through FA. I didn't really notice — I don't miss that place at all. I'd already liked Weasyl, and this site has been continuously improving since then.