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About the whole FA Exodus thing (rant) by SpikedKanine

If you /STILL/ don't know why everyone's dropping FA like it's hot-- Here you go---> http://ladysnakebite.tumblr.com/post/73563225043/sunblink-aspidelaps-demonsandteapots

-sigh-

This is hard. This is really hard. e____e

The most obnoxious part about all of this is just the fact that so many of us have to either put up with FA's bullshit....or lose a shit ton of our watchers because they can't be bothered. People who make a living off of their art (like me) are getting fucked in the ass by all of this.

All because of this bullshit.
All because the mods didn't just come out BEFORE they made Zaush a coder and lay out everything on the table, instead of silencing everyone.

At this point-- I don't even care wither or not he really raped her not. I'm more annoyed at how the admins handled it.

There's....just got to be a point where you....draw a line in the sand with how much forgotten promises, cover-ups, and arrogance you can take from ONE website.

I'm not doubting Zaush as a coder. He might be the best fucking coder FA will ever see-- But why HIM? That's the MOST scandalous person you could pick. People do NOT feel safe or comfortable with him as a coder. Considering how many rumours about his personality have been floating about for YEARS.

The thing that's PISSING ME OFF the most about this whole situation is people just brushing this off as 'people being butthurt" "loloololol drama". No. No it's fucking not. Not THIS many people would be pissed off if this was just some other random run-of-the-mill drama.

I am the LAST PERSON on this FUCKING PLANET to take shit seriously-- and even I find a major problem with this.

NO ONE TRUSTS THE STAFF AT FA ANYMORE. That will HAMPER everything because people will keep leaving. Sure some of them might forgive FA and come back. But I am positive a lot of them have completely lost trust in FA for good now.

All I wanted to do was sell my art for a living. But no.
People say that this 'isn't everyone's problem", You're right. It wasn't. Until they made him a coder. Someone with power on the site. That made it EVERYONE'S problem.

Ugh. Just ugh. I've put up with the mediocrity from FA for long enough. I think all of us have. I think we all deserve a lot better.

Also-- I don't need a fucking debate in the comments about wither or not a girl was violated or not, or wither or not there was any proof. MY POINT IS, FA IS TRYING TO SILENCE EVERYONE WHO WANTS ANSWERS AS TO WHY THEY DID'NT PICK SOMEONE ELSE WITH A LESS SHADY BACKGROUND.

About the whole FA Exodus thing (rant)

SpikedKanine

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    "FA New Banner Suggestion
    A suggestion I read in someone's journal there, so cynical, but so true!

    On it is a furry on his belly having a tantrum like a child saying "I'M LEAVING FA!"

    Below it is Fender with a smirk, pointing at the aforementioned furry saying, "And you'll all come slithering back... you always do." "

    Moral of the story is artists abandoninf FA for whatever drama is a hopeless and lost cause IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR WATCHERS! (as you found out).

    If you leave FA, do it for YOU, not because of whomever or whatever, but YOU!

    (said as someone whom greatly respects you, not trying to be an ass)

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      THAT BANNER WOULD BE SO PERFECT OMG.

      Yeah, I would have ditched a while back if it wasn't for the fact that I make my income off of it and that so many people are afraid of change that they REFUSE to go to the other site until something like THIS happens or when FA crashes around Christmas time. .___.

      That's why I'm doing what other artists who take commissions are doing-- Phasing FA out bit by bit.

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    I agree 100%. whether he did "it" or not still involves him being shady, as well as many other accounts of his shady acts. Not to mention him laughing it off on his twitter just days ago. And the mods just keep covering it up, even when his name was not stated. Someone like this should just not be given such power. Dragoneer- "You have been accused of being a sexual predator (which I believe is the better term) by many women you have been in contact with, but since you drew me some lovely fan art I'm going to reward you with a position of authority by letting you code the site. Never mind the much more experienced team who couldn't see your 'vision' and decided to quit."...

    This site is much more user friendly anyway. The admins have been friendly and prompt in responses.

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      Exactly. I mean-- even if he is completely innocent the fact that he just said "DON'T PUT YOUR DICK IN CRAZY" is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE when you're talking about a human fucking being. ESPECIALLY when you're someone in charge that people should be looking up to.

      It's not even like Zaush was a last chance opportunity or anything. FA's called out for help a bunch of times-- and people kept leaving because FA's too damn stubborn. :/

      I agree! Weasyl's a lot more transparent than FA could ever pretend to be. I hope it stays that way.

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        What really gets me is the argument that she "drove 3 hours to go see him, So she must have wanted it". She stated she was going through a hard break up and was discovering living for herself again. She was depressed and lonely. Who is to say maybe she was just really hoping to have a friend/company on new years eve? We have all been there where we needed company at our very lowest. I was there this time last year. she didn't even publicly announce anything for attention, it was exposed on yiffyleaks from a private message, which also disproves the "she's doing it for attention/to ruin his reputation". Was it a mistake on her part? Yes. But for him to go so far as to say "Don't stick your dick in crazy" is really just the last straw. This only shows me how well he will take this new 'professional' title. I would not call him a rapist, but I would definitely call him a sexual predator. You just do not reward someone for behaving like this.

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          I know right. :T Just cause you go to visit a friend doesn't mean you wanna get fucked LOL

          The second something like this happens, I don't care whose popular and whose not. Shit needs to get settled. If his fame gets ruined because of it-- it should only be because he was found guilty. :/ It's getting damaged now just because people are getting annoyed because they are frustrated and don't know the truth about him.

          I also don't get what evidence one would have of being talked into unwanted sex. Especially after the initial day it happened. :/ So I don't see why people keep saying 'there's no proof". What proof do they expect her to have, besides a handful of logs with him which wouldn't mean much honestly since it wasn't the actual ACT.

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    Its so bad that he is a the lead coder for the project. Cause with coding, he could easily get into someones personal details etc. It's what makes us all afraid to be on FA and not safe. Even if he didn't rape her, He still has such a heavy background of shady stuff etc Also the fact that the admin are quick to silence people and throw bans.

    And to top it off. While FA isn't safe for people. DA isn't safe for artists. They are allowing tracing and don't care. People are jumping ship from DA too now.

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      Yep. Tho-- honestly I don't think he would....since now the spotlight is on him more than ever...I still don't want him to be in charge of that kind of stuff. It's just an uneasy feeling for a lot of us I'm sure. When I first read the update about it, I cringed and wondered if I was the only one who remembered all of the rumors floating over his head.

      I mean...we all know rumors are just that-- rumors, but rumors are most of the time based off of SOMETHING they usually don't drop from thin fucking air; especially if it's all about him being sexual and creepin' on girls a lot.

      DeviantArt's been weird with the whole tracing thing for a while. Especially with the whole Vampirella87 incident a few years back.
      I'd rather have my art be unsafe than my entire well-being. lol

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    Totally agree, and it's nice to see so many of the people I followed on FA coming over here. :>

    Someone pointed out that at this point, the question of whether or not you think Zaush actually did it is totally irrelevant- just how 'Neer and his cronies reacted to this situation is disgusting. IDK if you keep up with furry drama stuff or have been watching the tweets, but dannnnnng. The rape-apologism and misogyny is strong in this one. There's been more then one post going around on Tumblr about it too.

    http://king-crowned.tumblr.com/post/73885832377/burn-fa-to-the-ground-and-shit-on-its-ashes-im-gone

    I mean even 'Neer basically admits it happened, but is all like "It's not like, rape-rape- I mean, she said no and stood her ground and Zaush did what he wanted anyway, but like, she totally went to his house on her own! If she didn't want to have sex, why would she go somewhere alone with him??"

    People act like she's trying to sabotage Zaush's reputation or something. A lot of people forget that she didn't make a big public stink about it, people only even found out because of the notes leak when FA got hacked. That's how everyone found out 'Neer was protecting practicing zoophiles like Mobianfox by telling them to hide their shit and warning them they're being investigated, too.

    http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1124/mobiandog.jpg

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      (although I should note- the victim goes by male pronouns now, apparently. I keep forgetting this and referring to them as female. :C )