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London After Midnight by stokerbramwell

London After Midnight

stokerbramwell

Originally uploaded to Furaffinity on March 22nd, 2013

Anybody who gets the title is way cool in my book.

Art by jonas

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    0.0 ... nothing here

    I will just back towards the direction I came from

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    Did you took the title from the famous lost horror Todd Browning and Lon Chaney film called "London After Midnight"? LoL! I wish that film will someday survived in some old barn, attic, or any places that it could lurk around in the shadows.

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      Yes I did! Glad you got the reference. And it would make my century if that film ever were rediscovered. After the relatively recent restoration of Metropolis, I still have hope...

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        I did watch the complete Metropolis long time ago on dvd. The special features, and the booklet where they talked about restoration was very interesting and I highly recommend for anybody to watch it and read about it. I'm sure it was very painstaking trying to make the newly discovered 16mm booklet look good enough. Once it is copied from 35mm to 16mm in the 60's or 70's with all scratch marks damages still on it, it can't be repaired big time. Because it is now big part of the 16mm picture. But it could have been worse. Because the original 35mm would have been in much worse condition from decaying or started a fire by now if it wasn't put on 16mm film stock for safe keepsake. That's how the last known London After Midnight print was burned in a fire, 35mm nitrate-based cellulose films are very highly flammable and dangerous in any place. I wouldn't even trust one nitrate-based 35mm film reel to not start a fire in my own place. 1967 MGM Vault fire was a major fire that erupted on Saturday, May 13, 1967 in Vault #7, that destroyed the last known print of London After Midnight. Lot of famous films were also now lost on that day. Very tragic day in the film history. But there might be hope for a surviving print, who knows.

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          Ah, lucky you! I haven't watched it yet. I can't even imagine how much work went into that restoration...that sort of thing is for people FAR more patient than I. And yeah, I'm familiar with how London After Midnight was lost...I still cringe at that story every single time I read it. I sincerely hope that we find a print SOMEWHERE out there, but perhaps that's too much to hope for.

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            Yeah, the restoration can get painstaking at times where it have to be done frame by frame. Digital restoration technology have become major blessing to make it easier and look lot nicer now. They have to look at different copies and prints for better condition in some areas, and also making sure they can find any parts not found in lot of prints out there. Devil Bat have ultimately been discovered near mint in 35mm print and now found on blu-ray. The surviving superior 35mm print of the Devil Bat was found in the 1990's by Bob Furmanek. however I do believe that only one reel of the Devil Bat 35mm was all destroyed from being decayed over years. That one reel have to be replaced with 16mm reel in better quality instead. I should be thankful that it's still lot better than old 16mm public domain prints on VHS tapes over the years. I hope I can get my hand on the 35mm print of Devil Bat on blu-ray someday. Have you ever watch the Devil Bat film before? Look on the bright side, Nosferatu have survived over years from being bootlegged too many times due to court case and copyrights trouble at the time. People were well aware at the time that they're meant to be destroyed. I guess that's why it was saved in the first place by the people who loved it. The print of the original cut version of The Passion Of Joan of Arc was discovered in the mental institution.

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              Is this the same Devil Bat with Bela Lugosi? Because if so, I wasn't even aware that one was lost! I haven't watched it yet, but I was planning on streaming it at some point. If it's a different Devil Bat then I haven't heard of it.

              And I love the story of how Nosferatu survived in SPITE of every effort to destroy it. It's like a real vampire in that sense. Have you ever read the book Hollywood Gothic by David Skal? It's an absolutely fascinating account of how Dracula went from novel to stage play to Hollywood, and there's much ado about Count Orlock and all the trouble he caused for the widow Stoker...

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                Actually, the Devil Bat film never got lost. I doubt it ever did get lost before. What I was trying to say it was the only actual superior 35mm print that was lost for years until 90's. Public domain 16mm prints was all only that survived before 90's. Yes it is the film with Bela Lugosi himself. Keep in mind it's (The Devil Bat) in public domain, it (The Devil Bat) doesn't have copyrights attached to it anymore. The real trouble is try to get a (The Devil Bat) film copy that looks great for its age. Yes it's great to see that Nosferatu film itself is like a real vampire. I think I have heard that one actual non-bootlegged longer original version copy with color tinted actually did survived. I'm not sure, I did read it on DVD package from KINO online. I could be wrong. No I hadn't read the book, there's so much interesting info out there on lot of stuff that I would loved to read about. I'm well aware that Bela Lugosi was discovered on Dracula stage play and the actor was used for the film version after that. It was the sexual acting thing that original Dracula don't have in the book created for the stage play first. Still, I would read that book if I can get it and have time for it.

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                  Ahh, my apologies, I misinterpreted! But yes I have run into that issue with public domain films, there are so many different terrible releases of them that it's hard to find a good copy. KINO's release of Nosferatu is superb, however, and includes not only the correct tints but the original music written to accompany the film recorded in high quality. Definitely recommended.

                  And it's quite true, a lot of Dracula's charisma was conjured up for the stage play. It came from having to squeeze the book down into an English drawing room melodrama. If you do get the urge, fortunately the book isn't too expensive! http://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Gothic-Tangled-Dracula-Screen/dp/0571211585

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                    I do have VHS tape copy of Nosferatu that have been published by KINO VIDEO, so it should be one of the best versions out there right next to the KINO dvds. My VHS copy only runs for 84 mins with color tints. It is possible that 94 mins on amazon for the dvd copy must be typo mistake. It doesn't say it have the original score, I can't be sure. I have added the book to my cart if I have the time and money to get a copy. So much interesting information out there, so little time to read and watch.

                    My favorite Dracula film, is the "Horror of Dracula". One of the wonderful, great hammer films to ever came out in this world. I really do loved "The Tomb of Dracula" comic book series written by Marv Wolfman and drawn by one of my favorite comic book artists of all the time, Gene Colan! One of the great masters in comic book suspense moody art. "The House of Dark Shadows" one of my favorite horror films, very fun horror flick based on the soap opera TV series. Near Dark (modern western genre meets vampires), Lost Boys (Kind of like the goonies meets vampires), original Fright Night (great popcorn horror flick), and some more favorites of mine. I should watch Shadow of the Vampire, and Vampire's Kiss (I know it's over the top, but hey it's Cage hamming it up, lol!) soon at some point if I have time to do so, since I do have them on VHS tapes to watch.

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                      Oh, you changed your username! That threw me off for a moment.

                      It's been a while since I've seen it so I couldn't say for sure which was the correct runtime myself. I should re-watch my copy again, I really should.

                      You have some excellent taste in vampire media there! Of the various things you listed off, the only ones I have not yet read/watched yet are Tomb of Dracula and Vampire's Kiss. Though I'm probably soon to fix both of those...

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                        Yes I did changed my name. LoL, it's that I feel my old username have becoming more as a old hat for me. It's too generic and I did have it as my name on the deviantant for seven long years. Right now it's like being reborn under a new name. Because the old name have too much of past attached to it, I'm not the person that I used to be in the high school years. I'm the person who is now finishing art college this spring. First name that I do loved aged stuff, and last name is a different version of the word vermin.

                        Thanks for your kind words. I'm a big horror fan, suspense, werewolves, mutant bats, strange places and anything that is scary looking to look at. I hope one day to make horror comics in black and white with my own brush ink and pen ink. I would be interested in taking some very short horror stories found in the public domain and putting my own personal style and the way of storytelling put into them. However I would like to pen a brand new horror stories of my own.

                        The Tomb of Dracula is really big series to get into. It takes over 70 issues to deal with. What makes it great is that the Marv Wolfman as a writer himself stayed on the series for something like over 65 issues all way to the last issue. only first six issues was written by couple different writers. Having Wolfman as a main writer, really did bring the characters developments to the higher level. Made people actually care for the characters. The penciler, Gene Colan himself stayed on the series from the first issue to the last issue. He did all over 70 issues in the series as a penciler. "Wolfman and Colan developed a bond while working on the series, on which they collaborated closely." Tomb of Dracula have been cited as one of the best longest running comic series of all the time by lot of people.

                        Vampire's Kiss, I really don't know it's good or not. But it's infamous for the Nicolas Cage's over the top acting who thinks he might be the Vampire from what I heard. He really did ham it up from what I can tell from the youtube clips. LoL!

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                          I can understand that! I am WAY too attached to this identity to ever leave it behind at this point, I think. Even though I'm definitely not the same person I was ten years ago, and I probably won't be the same person ten years from now. It just fits me too well.

                          You have very similar interests to me, my friend! And I hope you do someday make your own horror comics, whether they be adaptations or originals. I'm always interested in reading new takes on old classics, or finding new classics to read...

                          You know, I've always liked Marv Wolfman based on his name alone. AND he wrote one of my favorite Batman: The Animated Series villain origin stories, "Feet of Clay." But it's always nice when one person's vision of a character can carry them all the way through like that. I suppose I should pick up the Tomb of Dracula collection soon! I feel it's probably way overdue.

                          You, uh, could say that about Cage. He's definitely a...unique performer, I'll say that about him.

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                            The river never stay the same, the water are always changing from time to time. We'll never step in the same river twice. That's life, we human beings will change over time. That's what character developments in media should be, they change over time in the story.

                            Yes we do have similar antiquity interests, indeed we do. That makes it ultra rarity in the furry fandom those days.

                            Thank you for your kind words. Black and white ink detailed horror stories will work well in order to do a printing low budget book, if it will ever see the day in printing. Most likely to be done on cheap newsprint to make it cheap and save cash. It would allowed me to grasp the power of the light and dark value studies in B&W form. Colors takes lot of time to have control over it in print, colors do have better chances to be suffered from printing error. I learn it in art college, that it's in some ways difficult to make colors in print to stay faithful to the artwork from the photoshop.

                            There's a silly fact in comic in the sliver age of comics where word "wolfman" can't be used. However when Marv Wolfman writes a comic story with words "wandering wolfman". Comic code made a big deal about how werewolves can't be used in comics. However Marv was able to keep it in because it's his last name. This is where the artists' and writers' credits have to be part of the comic book for first time in a DC horror comic. so it can be proved that Wolfman is a real actual last name to a person.

                            I heard it from a different source long time ago that I can't remember where I got it. However here's a link source that talks more about it. http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/09/06/comic-book-urban-legends-revealed-119/

                            Cage is really "unique" among actors, his maniac "I don't care what I'm doing" acting made films like Wicker Man remake more amusing to watch otherwise it would have been dull among dull remakes. Life would be dull without him in some ways. I know he does act great in great art films, and can be a great actor. Still it's good to see him not taking anything seriously all the time.

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                              Very well put! The Wheel of Fortune turns and turns and life is ever-changing...

                              I have met a few who have interests in older movies, older literature, and in older horror in particular...but you are right, we are something of a minority. A shame, really. There are some true gems in the art and stories of old. I finally got around to watching Night of the Demon recently and it was an absolute delight...

                              Black and white is DEFINITELY cheaper for printing...and, in many ways, much better for mood and atmosphere as well. ESPECIALLY in horror. There are no shadows as dark as those in black and white movies or comics...

                              Haha, oh, the Comics Code. Those were truly absurd times and I am glad that we're past them...well, somewhat past them. There's always going to be a new boogeyman for parents to be frightened of. Before it was comic books, it was penny dreadfuls. After comic books, it became video games. Now it's social media, and who knows what else it's going to become in the future...?

                              I think one of the reasons we've gotten so many unique Cage performances is because he will not turn down almost any project that lands at his feet because he needs the money. Apparently he owes the IRS a veritable fortune in back taxes, though who knows if he's managed to pay that down yet or not. I think sometimes he gives a role his all, and other times he just sees it as something to be goofy in.

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                                I do wonder why we're one of only few to enjoy really old stuff. It's always great to look into the past, like going back in time. There are old stories do aged so well that they do have things in common with the today's times. That's why I do call myself Antiquity as part of my new username.

                                Furries themselves don't need to be pigeonholed into only liking furry media and today's new kind of dull media. They should go out and try looking at different kind of things for a change. Today I picked up a DVD copy of "On Golden Pond" for $3 that I do want to watch. One guy looked at me, "you're actually buying this film about a old couple enjoying their days on the lake?". I'm like yes I do care about it, LoL! Because we will grow old someday. It doesn't hurt to slow down and enjoy the life while still being young.

                                "Night of the Demon" is a film that I would loved to watch someday. I'll be watching "Out of the Past" film today made by the same film director who did make "Night of the Demon" named Jacques Tourneur. It's been sitting on my shelf collecting dust far too long. I almost did got "Cat People" on dvd at low value few years ago, so much films and so little time to spend.

                                I do know what penny dreadful were, I did have a hard time imagining how one young school boy character can be very dangerous and very popular to the people who loved reading about that ages ago. I think one school boy main character did burned down one school house. Not sure that is true fact. Hard to keep a face thinking about it. Still I would loved to read a history book on the penny dreadful to understand it all.

                                I do believe that the next boogeyman for the parents, will be the virtual reality. I have tried one of them and realized it's like stepping into a new kind of world. In the same way the internet is the second world right next to the planet earth. The cyber space. However I don't need to be in the virtual reality unless I can meet the furries as a furry in the virtual reality just for laughs. I'm hoping that will happen soon someday. My mind did get tricked into thinking I was going to fall over from the second floor in the virtual reality, LoL!

                                P.S. as we add more comments here on this page, the comments are getting thinner and thinner! LoL! How thin it will get?

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                                  I suspect a lot of people just think old immediately equals boring, or outdated, or ignorant, or any number of other silly things. People aren't willing to give things a chance. They're too immersed in the NOW of the current world. I'm like you, I enjoy looking at history, at seeing how we arrived where we are, at how people used to think so differently about the world. And seeing about how, the more we change, the more we stay the same...

                                  I can't get over that people even ask that sort of question. What's wrong with liking a slower, more contemplative story? I swear, people these days. It doesn't ALWAYS have to be about big fights and massive amounts of CGI. I don't necessarily look down on those things, but there's more to appreciate in the world than just that...

                                  Ahh, I enjoyed Cat People so much! So wonderfully atmospheric. There are no shadows as dark as those in a black and white movie...

                                  It's hard for me to imagine ANY media magically transforming a psychologically healthy person into a criminal. Comic books, penny dreadfuls, video games...it's just moral panic for moral panic's sake. Happens in every generation and the trend doesn't seem to be abating soon...

                                  I think you're right, VR is definitely primed to be the next big scapegoat. We've even got Oculus Rift porn being made, and you KNOW that's going to cause a big kerfuffle about WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO THE CHILDREN once that hits the mainstream media. I swear, I wish people could just use some common sense once in a while...

                                  Hahaha who knows! Maybe these posts will only get one letter wide? The sky's the limit!

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                                    Sorry for keeping you waiting. I realized it’s been almost one month after your last rely to my post. LoL. It’s that I have been dealing with my thesis comic work at my art college. I will be finishing art college this spring and never look back, yay! The comic thesis is called “The Outland Furry Freaks”, however it’s possible I will redraw the whole thing after finishing art college to create more pages. Trying to work on 13 pages is not that easy! It was, a challenge to tell a story that is worth of a thesis work.

                                    Yes I do agreed that lot of people my age are really strange. To me, any story should be well written and well done no matter how old it is. Out of the Past, noir film that I talked about. My gosh, it was so wonderful to watch that film. Kind of shame on the ending but fits very well for the film. Film so tight that I have to rewind some parts to get them in my head. New things will be outdated, those are only surface they see.

                                    Speaking of history, I did discovered long ago that my grandma’s grandparents did escaped from Russia and lied they’re from Germany instead.

                                    I would agreed that slower paced story, helps the person to take it all in. Understanding the characters well enough. Built up the suspense before the big final that finally ties in all together. Like a good rug that ties all things in the room together, man. CGI, yeah they can break or make the story. It depends in the hands of the director dealing with the producers. Curse/Night of the Demon that you did watched, was actually never meant to show the monster. Because the director doesn’t want that. But the producers forced it in the film for money making reasons.

                                    Atmospheric, ah yes. I found myself more interested in color moods over too much detail designs. Frank Frazetta’s work is very moody and gritty at times, and Boris Vallejo’s work actually does lack something that makes Frazetta great to look at. Vallejo's work is too shiny and looks like models for the magazines. However, they’re both great artists. Apples and oranges to deal with!

                                    True, Watching and actually doing something is very different from others. Penny Dreadfuls are very interesting in their own rights. The idea of a school boy doing the most dangerous and exciting ever know to a man ages ago back than was and will be still odd to me. LoL! In fact, a school boy as a main character did set his school on fire. It’s what I hear about it, but never read penny dreadfuls.

                                    I’m glad that comics no longer take the blame anymore, in fact my mother told me at school where she worked. They’re trying to get enough kids to read. They have to use comic books instead of books in reading classes. However, comics and books are not same thing to have. There need to be special classes for comic learning in lot of schools. A class that needs to mix writings and visual drawings to tell a story all together in one class. Books are great for words, however comic is a medium that deals with drawings and words that takes different kind of understanding. There is a reason why comics where never used in schools, because their reading classes is only focus on writing words. Lot of people are too afraid to draw, to make art.

                                    I can imagine furries using VR in order to become the "actual real life furries” themselves. They will say "You're not furry enough until you're in the VR world of furries." I can imagine myself laughing at it once it will actually happen. Furries are always funny themselves from time to time, it’s just we’re so ourselves trying to be mutant animals that we do cosplaying as online. That’s why I enjoyed furry fandom. As a raccoon talking to you as a bat, lol! The freedom of arts, wonderful arts of the minds we have here. However I rather be spending more time on art making instead of being in the VR.

                                    Oculus Rift porn you say? I wonder how a person have to make sure no one is in the room with him/her, what if forgot to lock the door? There should be a comedy sketch on this idea. A person cannot be in two worlds at the same time, blind in one world while dealing with other world.

                                    Yeah I do agreed, people need to understand that it’s themselves making the choices to use the items. It’s like guns don’t kill people, only the people kill people. Video games and comic, does not make a person do bad things. Only the person that make a choice based on what kind of the person is. That’s why parenting is very important, the understandings from parents to be passed on to the children. However the age we in, lot of parents doesn’t do their own job well enough. Trial and error of the parenting I guess.